Unfortunately Iam writing this post as our Social Media and our Main Stream Media both are so irresponsible that they publish news without any verification.
Today my friends told me about Hamid Mir’s program Capital Talk regarding Agha Waqar a Proud Pakistani who have “Invented” water car kit.
Part 1
Links for Part 2 and 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAKx_F8ufXY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIcnGX-hpJg
Above links are dead, I have posted new links (08-15-2102)
Part 1:
Part 2
Part 3
I have also found several images on social media:
Another one:
Well my first impression was Bravo! as I personally have interest in alternative energy and efficient energy (you can find some projects regarding efficient energy on my blog) so I was becoming fan of Agha Waqar who has invented this incredible device. But then it remind me few years back I have seen a video that Japan has successfully tested a water car in 2008
Video
Another Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jivb7lupDNU
Then I thought there might be some difference between the device Agha Waqar has invented because our Media is publicizing it so much then I start searching on internet for HHO Car Kits.
I have seen Agha Waqar’s invented device video in Hamid Mir Program and I started searching for that guess what! I have found a device similar to somewhat Agha Waqar has “invented” selling for $80 on E-Bay and Ali Baba
HHO Water Car Kit Device
http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/110906829/Dry_Cell_Hydrogen_Generator_KIT.html
While searching I have found that Japanese have invented mini generators for that purpose to generate electricity via water in home to operate mini devices like laptops, mobile phone, games etc. And they claims that it can generate electricity from any kind of water it doesn’t need distilled water just tap water is required to electricity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVdo8S6Ew_Q&feature=related
Again I thought that it might be some sort of secret and its not easy to generate electricity via water but then I found Do It Yourself DIY videos and tutorials to build Hydrogen Water Generator in home.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ccOp3LjIQY&feature=related
Even a whole guide is available on instructables to build your own home based water generator.
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-assemble-a-HHO-Generator-and-why-it-works/
Correct me if Iam wrong in writing this post. I think this water kit is already developed years ago as I have seen water car video in 2008 and now in 2012 our media is claiming that we have “invented” water car kit which is available for sale on E-Bay and other websites.
For our media and social media I dont know how irresponsible both are that they use to publicize anything they likes without verification.
Updated August 01-2012
After reading comments I would like to clarify one thing.
People are claiming that the existing water kits are used to boost performance but cannot fully run car on water.
As per my knowledge HHO is used in vehicles by two ways.
1. Pump Hydrogen gas into engine by mixing it with gasoline. It will reduce consumption of gasoline and increase performance.
This procedure is already used widely because its somewhat successfull.
2. Generate large amount of energy and run engine directly from that energy. The disadvantage of this procedure is all energy is generated by means of Battery, large amount of Hydrogen means large amount of energy will be used for electrolysis and after few hours battery will go down.
Now dont tell me that battery will get charged via engine generator if you have this theory in mind, read my comments.
and even for the sake of argument his water kit only works with water Japanese already have produced that car in 2008 I have posted video of that car above so there is nothing new in it.
I have also seen yesterday’s Capital Talk program:
Part 1:
Part 2 and 3 links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkjxreMkwos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmDYt8CeN-4
Above links are dead updated new links (08-15-2012)
Part 1:
Part 2
After viewing this show I have also realized that Agha sahab is not aware about technical terms, law of physics etc..
He is converting water into hydrogen by means of electrolysis so more power is required because according to law of physics when you convert energy in one form to another it will produce losses (For example: When a generator converts fuel energy into electrical energy sound / noice + heat is produced which is loss in terms of conversion process, Same way when you convert battery energy into electrical energy which is done in UPS heat is produced that heat is loss of energy + step up process in UPS also produce large amount of losses) there is no way in earth that you can produce large amount of energy with conversion of small amount of energy.
So both procedures are already discovered years ago and there is nothing new in Agha sahab’s procedure.
My Personal Openion:
I think the hype created with Agha Waqar water kit is nothing but for politcal reasons
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ISLAMABAD: Federal Minister for Religious Affairs Syed Khurshid Shah on Monday appreciated the technology of water fuel kit for running motor cars. Talking to Geo News, Khurshid Shah said that it would take time to introduce the water fuel technology for running motor vehicles. He said that a summary was being prepared by the Ministry of Science and Technology for the next Cabinet meeting where water fuel kit would be discussed in detail.He said that President Asif Ali Zardari had also appreciated the new technology.He said that a demonstration about the water fuel kit was held where the representatives of car manufacturing companies were also present.
The minister said that the media could play a vital role in creating awareness among the masses about the technology.
Source: (APP)
Source:
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So what Iam thinking about Water Kit invention that hype is created to attract people that all power crisis will be solved, all cars will run on water, Current government will help Agha Waqar to commercialize water kit and after few years everything in Pakistan will run on water.
Again they are dodging people with cheap political tactics.
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Updated 08-03-2012
I think Agha Sahab has seen this video:
Updated 09-04-2012
THE REALITY OF AGHA WAQAR
Source:
http://e.jang.com.pk/09-04-2012/karachi/page1.asp
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o stupid guy, what do you want to prove?
are you jealous of him ?
people like you are problem in progress of pakistan…
I have shown everything with proof, can u please provide valid proofs that Iam wrong?
this article is cheap marketing idea for a promotion of your website.
Instead of baseless allegations can u come up with proofs?
i do not need to provide any proofs, because after reading several articles and your tweets i realize that you are not well take rest or go to psychologist…
What Faraz Ahmed is saying makes sense……only way Agha Waqar can be right if his process produce at least 200% more HHO with same amount of betray power used then perilously known methods.
Government ministers are also involved …this is most probably is a government sponsored stent to divert people’s attention from shortage of electricity in the country…..I am so sad that our heroes like Dr A.Q Khan and Hamid Mir are dragged into it…it will end up with embarrassment for us and our beloved country Pakistan….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip1IE0NSuRM
what I said was right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip1IE0NSuRM
what I said was right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip1IE0NSuRM
what I said was right
DR.Samar mubarik Exposed water kit of Pakistani engr for car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip1IE0NSuRM
See i was right look my comments above
or you must be agent of patrol / CNG Mafia
wow…dude u seem pretty dumb!!
u r absolutely right but i think one should ask waqar that is he trying disprove the law of conservation of energy and if he say yes then his invention makes sense as there is a lot of formulas disproved in physics (but i think law of conservation of energy is very powerful) but if no then it is impossible. Another thing if this water kit placed in addition to petroleum engine then it will conserve the additional energy which the engine will not use (as we know there is no 100% efficient engine) and then by means of electrolysis more energy will be available for efficient use. u r the best guy who say with proof.
let me tell you some thing ,
first you r %100 jealous from him
second you are jealous from him
third you are jealous from him..
we love Agha.
Actualy everybody know that faraz is a jelios person though he invent ths articl with dirty mind. And some friends was saing that the btry wil be power doWN ofter 2 clock no car can driv more. Hehehe innocent pakistanis! Do u know that there is a generater built in to charge betry. Pakistani are@ 900% phoöl shame shame.
I’m sorry but its pretty much disappointing to even see such article.. i just have one question if you are so much technology freak and you had all that knowledge i wonder why didn’t you build such thing may be you were to busy in writing blogs .. The thing is start learning how to appreciate people around , I’m not saying he has discover new galaxy or build any new invention neither it might be any rocket science but credit goes to him for at least stepping out and doing something like which you and me didn’t….
Hi Hameer,
I have did some work on Alternative energy.
Here is a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZcHgXgazX0
Here are some of my Alternative energy projects:
http://farazahmed.com/technology/electronics
I have created this website on free server several years ago:
http://digitalzone.150m.com/files/about.html
with almost 100+ projects
http://digitalzone.150m.com/files/circuits.html
Iam not claiming that I have achieve something similar to Agha Waqar however Iam not just a blog writter, I have tried to do something.
And for Agha Waqar, I have respect for whatever he is doing but his claim that he has invented water kit is false and baseless for me.
Thanks and best regards
Faraz Ahmed
Mr. Faraz Ahmad I am also in doubt about this and I think you are quite right.People commenting above know nothing about such things but still comment.
Actually the main problem with this is the solely generation of energy from water.According to the law of conservation of energy if we want to gain energy from water we must give it the same amount of energy in the form of electricity.That is the main concern about this whole discussion.
I think Mr Faraz is right in all extent.
But I would hope you are wrong
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@Faraz Ahmed! Sorry Sir ,let it be that case,even if the tutorials were available on-line why not the engineers in different universities paid heed to this invention which this guy paid unto.Your comments in this matter just show-off your hatred.You could have even admired—–for he (AGHA WAQAR) imported in this Technology ;stating out the link is very easy then practically experimenting up.Secondly! sir,if you are so at home in to this affairs then why not YOU worked upon it.Last but not the least,”ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS”.
I really really appreciate this blogpost . You are actually helping to debunk this absolute hoax . Our bullshit media is quick to promote unverified cases of pseudo-science like these . Keep up !
Please atleast Appreciate Agha for what he has done First in Pakistan atleast if not in world. or atleast me or you had’nt invented yet.
@Mr Nabeel. This is a good invention in Pakistan no doubt about it. But look into the matter technically. Mr Faraz is saying that technically the car will not run more because input energy is less (i.e battery) and output is more. How it is possible?
I saw the show, and I also heard the various references they gave in the show about how similar kits had been made and similar attempts on water-run cars were done since the past few decades.
I personally think that you only saw the show to attack it, had you actually WATCHED and HEARD what they were saying, all the links you’re posting here, most of these attempts were already spoken of in the voice-over as they were driving around. So this post is frankly sharing nothing new, just trying to degrade it. You want “proof” ? Please watch the show again, and listen to the voice over.
Reality About Agha Waqar Water Car Kit http://t.co/23WOdXkO
Our Media will broadcast anything as long as they’re getting their points. Geo must be making big bucks right now. This so called revolutionary technology is nothing new. We’re overlooking a simple fact that electrolysis itself requires energy. You don’t get lunch for free sorry !
Credit taker..
RT @MA733N
Reality About Agha Waqar Water Car Kit http://t.co/MTYu5rjx
this is only jealousy nothing else bravo please search how to hack a website on youtube you will find a video.
how to make a bomb video can be find on youtube.com kindly do not do this atleast.
yes you have a Valid point that he invented this no way this is shit.
i don’t think so he can be successful in this because our country is only surviving because of the Petroleum.
Guess water prices if this succeed???? 100 Rupees Liter….???
Thanks for writing about this. Our media will show anything without verifying. there should be a stricted code of conduct for the media (for such reports as well as for showing violence, dead bodies etc.). These kits are commonly available at technological toy stores for children to play with and learn from them! Of course, this person made it and that is good but he did not invent it. Making an already existing thing is not that big a deal like our media is showing. engineering students do it all the time as projects during Bachelors.
Good Work Faraz. I really appreciate it. Paki media has got crazy and they need to learn the physics/chemistry of grade 10. Unfortunately Majority of Pakistani people are also waiting for a Miracle instead of hardworking.
Faraz you are ryt some how, as far as HHO kit is concern they are available and you can create your own by doing electrolysis using water but these are still not producing enough HHO to run a car on its own, these devices require additional fuel to inject with however these can increase the millage upto more then 50 times, Waqar Agha’s device may can produce enough HHO to run a car on its own as far as his demo shows, so if this is a case he is the inventor, how ever I watched his several interview and feel that he is not very much clear with the theory but he is good with his practical effort.
Question regarding to give him a credit of an inventor, if this device is still not patent anywhere in world and Waqar Agha patent his design first then he will be the inventor on papers
check your posted link http://www.ebay.com/itm/SMART-CELL-HHO-GENERATOR-KIT-RUN-YOUR-CAR-ON-WATER-/290681178001?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43adf2c791
this is stil un-patent design and still they are claiming that they are improving there kit to produce more HHO —- now read this “You MUST purchase a Map or Maf Enhancer ” this is from your posted link.
SHORT DISCUSSION SHORT SUMMARY: Available devices are just to improve your MPG (Millage) and they still require addition fuel (Petrol/CNG/LPG) to inject in, however Waqar Agha claims that his device can run a car with HHO without any additional fuel injection.
Well its a simple rule of Physics you cannot produce more energy then the input.
The example Agha Waqar has given is somewhat similar like you say that I will connect a charger on output of UPS and charge battery with it so battery will never go down and I will also get output.
in this system the basic input is taken from battery for electrolysis so I dont think its possible to run car more then 2 to 3 hours without charging the battery.
If he has invented something that is above the rules of physics he will change the world definitely
Mr. Faraz concerning your last comment “I dont think its possible to run car more then 2 to 3 hours without charging the battery.” There is a generator that continuously charges the battery as the car is in motion (Its by default present in all the cars). Don’t tell me you don’t know that??
Yes I know there is a generator connected with engine via belt that charges battery when car runs. so whats the point? I have also mentioned that this example is same as you gave me example that you can connect a battery charger on output of a UPS it will charge UPS battery and u can connect home load on it as well so battery will never go down because charger is connected with the battery? isn’t it?
Man it will not work because when u converts energy in different form it produces losses and due to those losses you cannot produce same amount of energy thats basic rule of physica
I dont know much about physics but in this case as you claim that battery is the input and the output can’t be more than battery input, right? Then how can you run a car on that output which comes out of an input of 12V. It can never be possible to run a car engine on a output which is less then 12 volt, right?. How did he run the car then. It shouldn’t move at all. Hybrid cars use batteries 200 times bigger than the battery he was using in his case. If you are telling truth then I don’t agree that the car will only run for a couple of hours before battery needs recharge, actually it should not be able to even start on energy which is lesser then input of 12V. There must be more to it.
I saw the show the gasoline line was not physically disconnected but he claimed that he disconnected by a switch, CNG was disconnected physically. We are not sure how many batteries and which size are in the car.
On the other hand if he had invented a unique process to extra ordinarily improve the efficiency of this process as compared to past , he would have patented it before even talked about it to anybody.
It is a mere common sense to tell right away that this is a stunt .Most probably political motive. But also to some people can get ripped of their money if the try to invest in this business.
Why are you wasting you your time defending yourself with these idiots?
This will be proven a hoax when a 12th grader looks into it and finds some pre-stored Hydrogen and very little actually generated by electrolysis.
Now, I feel I have wasted my and your time further.
Best//
@KESCwala @omar_quraishi guys here is a post showing showing reality of water kit http://t.co/7DN5aVxQ the man commenting is also engineer
@faisalkapadia http://t.co/7DN5aVxQ @imfaraz explains the “Reality About Agha Waqar Water Car Kit”
http://t.co/0meDsLgs please read for knowledge on alternate energy theres a water car kit being sold for 80usd on ebay
@imfaraz RT@faisalkapadia http://t.co/7DN5aVxQ please read for knowledge on alternate energy theres a water car kit sold for 80USD on ebay
Mr Fahar I totally agree with the points you mentioned. These are some of the points that convince us that there is something in his device.Thank you for mentioning them
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mr faraz, how does a nuclear bomb produce an astounding amount of energy? does that require the same level of energy input as well?
Hassan
Read this:
http://epicdoesnot.blogspot.com/2010/11/quick-and-easy-how-atomic-bomb-works.html
It produces energy due to chain reaction.
Well done for researching, verifying and for posting this.
No virtue is better than being honest.
Thanks
we should condemn our media and support the arguments made by Dr. atta these are close to facts…
Faraz thank you very much I remembered that Honda had made a water powered car
Thanks for your research paki media is full of shit
Faraz I have seen all the links you have posted here in website and all are related to boost the combustion of gasoline engine by using the petrol plus hydrogen. The water fuel car by Agha Sahib is some what different and it is not hybrid fuel , actually it is only using Hydrogen for combustion. The concept for driving the car is OK but the world is asking where he is getting electricity to get hydrogen from water using electrolysis process. Actually he is consuming the car battery. ALL THE STUPID PEOPLE TAKING A DRIVE TEST ONCE. PLEASE GO TRY THIS CAR FOR THREE DAYS THEN YOUR BATTERY WILL BE DOWN AND YOU NEED TO RECHARGE IT.
Dear All, Salam.
First we should understand the difference between science and technology. To run a gasoline engine on a mixture of Hydrogen gas and oxygen gas is not a proven technology yet.
It means that this solution will not give the same exact results. Definately we can reduce the consumption of gasolene from 0% to 30% maximum by using this system. This system can work very well for smaller engines like 100CC or less. But if u have a large capacity engine like bus or truck engines (from 3000 cc 10000cc engines) this technique is useless. A lot of people and scientist have experimented on this subject long before the existence of public internet. The ltrature about this kind of work is only less than 10% of that what scintists and engineers have published in scintific papers. We can boost or enhance the performance with this technique and it is 100% applicable. We are spending 1200 Million Dollars annually on petrolium. Why should not we use this technique to save a liitle. For example if we can save 10% gasolene it means we can save 10% of 1200 Million Dollars that is 120 Million Dollars…! this is a big amount & definately this saving will go to Zardari and Co.
I am a Mech Eng working in apower plant. I am still unable to get clear answer from available videos what Agha sb is claiming. If he is saying about conventional electrolysis with perpectual sustainability then its impossible. This will destroy first and second law of thermodynamica, based on which the whole combustion engines, heat engines, AC systems of the planet operate. Agha sb should just share the engergy balance equation with the public.
Secondly he says that he is using hydrogen in standard engines, its also nearly impossible because hydrogen need less compression ration, different ignition timing and different stichimetric ratio What is is doing with air intake system ,blockedvalves timing?. Thirdly if his engine is using water and throwing water in exhaust then why he need to put water, just circulate the circuit from exhaust and use it again in engine forever. Unfortunately most of people use to comment on such inventions just think emosionaly and not intelligently.
Isn’t this water kit close to carnot engine? doesn’t carnot engine’s theory violates the law of thermodynamics?
Shocking facts..
I noticed that whenever someone claim about his extra ordinary expertise.. our Electronic and social media starts promoting him without any research…
and whenever expose Self Proclaimed person , people call him traitor.
Same happened in Shafay Thobani & Shayan Anique cases in last two months..
They are more damaging Pakistan’s role not people like writer of this article..
Well, Mr. Faraz. You look a kinda jerk. Why you dont think it will save economic crises. Why don’t you think it will help country especially poors.
You are completely pyscho just go doctor and get cured.
Read my post properly and all my comments before posting any stupid comment.
Its surprising to me that what I have read in our local media (kawish news paper) that Agha waqar develope a water kit use instead of petroleum or cng, and he is offered by U.S a deal of 7000000000000 7 hundred trillion to work with them, (which he rejected), now issue is that is in real Agha achieve a incredible success or it is only the media propaganda
or may be farad. Can this thing is publish in any international reliable research journal, or not. As you are claiming that Agha has stolen a previous idea than what is the meaning of this so huge offer by U.S
Nothing but false claims
lolz…….7000000000000 7 hundred trillion to work with them
I think that money can help Pakistan a lot…sell it man….
What about the water car video about Dr Ghulam Sarwar of lahore who drove his limo like car in jan 2012???Doesnt that make him the inventor??
Read all my comments you will get answer
Nooo he is punjabi .how can he be inventor…
I have done Masters in Physics. That is impossible. The Process of Electrolysis needs more energy. In simple words more costly. It is better technology if no fuel is there, other wise it is useless.
Faraz Ahmed has good investigation. Thumbs Up man. Eng Agha and Friends might have done some good work but useless. Nothing else.
My Friend you have proven very well and i appropriate you but i think the actual debate is not is this new invention or old.
The actual Question is What is difference between this Water Kit and All other Kit.
Go on their websites and read their FAQ.
and focus this Question.
Q)Is this device or kit can run without any other fuel and on 100% Water.
Ans)No
this is answer which is common everywhere.
but in pakistani kit Answer is Yes.
This is Actual Invention.
FAQ-1) http://www.hybrid.com.sg/hybrid-techonology/faq.html
FAQ-2) http://www.hhoproduct.com/faq.php#19 (q-19)
FAQ-3) http://www.hhokitsdirect.com/faq.php (Q#10)
Hi Babur,
I think you haven’t read my post completely, I have posted videos of Japanese car which runs on water.
As per my knowledge HHO is used in vehicles by two ways.
1. Pump Hydrogen gas into engine by mixing it with gasoline. It will reduce consumption of gasoline and increase performance.
This procedure is already used widely because its somewhat successfull.
2. Generate large amount of energy and run engine directly from that energy. The disadvantage of this procedure is all energy is generated by means of Battery, large amount of Hydrogen means large amount of energy will be used for electrolysis and after one or two hours battery will go down.
Now dont tell me that battery will get charged via engine generator if you have this theory in mind, read my earlier comments.
So both procedures are already discovered years ago and there is nothing new in Agha sahab’s procedure.
“A science is any discipline in which the fool of this generation can go beyond the point reached by the genius of last generation”
now you decide whats true? i think Agha sb is doing blunders
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Have great respect for Agha Waqar? I think you should reevaluate that. He is cheap, jahil and a fraudia who’s trying to make some quick cash by giving the gullible uneducated Pakistani man false hope. People like him should be castrated.
I have read the whole of your article, and one words kept coming in my mind…
‘BEWAKOOF hai ye writer”,
Well Wikipedia se search kar lena, ya Japan USA k failures ki videos post kar dena to support your own theories is silly..
Yaad karo wo tym jab dunya k scientists yehi prove karte thay keh dunya FLAT h and Gol nahi.. Us waqt jisne ye kaha tha keh GOL hai us k against Dr Atta ya ap jese bloggers ne ese he views ka izhar kiyya tha…
I mean JO b KIT hai wtsoever, he is sayin that wo Hamid Meer ki car ho ya Atta Rehman ki us p lga k pani se chala dega gari to BAAT KHATAM…
Chal to pani se he rahi he na petrol se to nahi na, I am willing to fund and sponsor this guy 100%
Read before you post
I would agree to this article. Taking so much credit for something that has already been there and then not admitting to the fact is not a good sports and calibre that one expects from an inventor. Its 2012 and finding the exact thing is so simple now.
Yes, this is a good alternative of energy, accept it, accept the work which is already been done and take it forward.
Hi Faraz,
How much energy is in one molecule of water?
Hi,
Ask anyone who have expertise in physics.
or Google it.
Thanks and best regards
Faraz Ahmed
good article
i think this is new invention if we consider the water kit like as CNG kit the automobiles become more economical to drive.
if the hydrogen is just produced by simple battery of car through electrolysis then its really appreciating
Thanks Faraz you have made your point logically and with prove.
Dont worry about the hate comments,, pakistani awam is filled with emotional crap.
Great work dude!! As an engineer and science student I can understand what you r saying.. I hope this will create awareness to the poor people of Pakistan and help realizing this fraud!!!
Around 6 to 8 months back i have seen some doctor sb. from pujab side on in some morning show, who also claimed that he and his team has invented water kit and its very much excellent…etc…waiting for some investor to make investment….
but nothing happened after that…:)
Dear Faraz,
I have said this is a gimmick from day 1. You cannot produce more energy with less energy. He will finally sink and so will the hopes of people and at the end there would be SINDHI engineer who invented water car and offered billions of dollars by the Americans was not allowed by the PANJABI media and PUNJABI establishment.
It is like when you get cancer, which conventional medicine cannot treat, people will take you to healers who claim they can treat cancer. In the end you die a painful death anyways. This guy seeks govt. permission to patent the product! What kind of world he lives in where one needs government permission to patent an invention.
Nice!!!! Very Nice!
Hi Faraz,
I can understand what you are saying. The only thing which you failed to understand in posting proofs is that all of those water kits require some sort of fuel to inject in them. If you are unsure what I am saying, go and watch those videos thoroughly. Water mini generator uses aluminium as electrolyte and then water to produce energy. Car kits use either petrol inlet or baking soda to put in with water. If you doubt, please go and watch your own posted proofs videos very thoroughly!
Now, having said that, we should keep our mouths shut until technology is proven an invention by the knowledgeable people’s thorough inspection as we never know may be it is truth as he claims that it only requires 100% water and nothing else.
I think at this stage getting emotional and talking crap and giving proofs which you by yourself don’t understand what you are talkig about; it is better to stay quiet and wait for the truth to come out. Anything at this stage is too early to say.
And by the way, I myslef, like you, is a professional engineer whose speciality is electronics and computers.
Hi Faraz!
You r doing some great work here. i read all the posts and realize that those who oppose u, they are unfimiliar with basic science. So Bhains (Cow) k agay jitna marzi been bajao ho ga kuch nahi. agar koee mujh say pochay k “Aqal bari k Bhains” tou may kehta hoon “science”. But some peoples believe “Akal nai tay mojan hi mojan”. i request all pakistanis to watch hamid mir program, when this show about to finish Mr. Waqar asks a question to Dr. Atta-ur-rehman “Does He (Dr. Atta-ur-rehman) knows how Hydrogen gas produced?” Dr Sahib said that hydrogen is produced from Methane (CH4) at commercial scale. hearing this answer mr. waqar smiles n pose likes Dr Atta Sahib knows nothing. He trymphly said “hydrogen is produced from water and mentioned water’s formula H2O. OMG this is happen to Dr Sahib. Jo zara b is baat ko samajhtay hain un ko koee shuk nai reh jata k Mr, Waqar science say kitnay nabuld hain. This is the climax of the drama that Geo is Producing and promoting. I also add here my apology to Dr. Atta Sahib, how a neem khawanda person insults him. May janab aap say maafi maangta hoon. Hum loog Ap k kabil nai hain. Ap ka hosla aur zarf daikhnay ki chees tha. Allah Ap ko Salamat rakhay. Ameen. is k ilawa mr. waqar nay jo badtameezi ki hay us ko bhi strongly condemn kerta hoon. Mr. Waqar u done nothing r prove rite now, but What Dr. Sahib done n prove, we need generations to thank that.
To b continued………..
salam to Agha Waqar.
All the nation witch is based on very very poor peoples are salute to u on ur this marvelous invention.we pray for u.
All the nation are with u.
keep it
plz put the contact number of Agha Waqar on web site
Wow !!!
writer made such a gr8 effort to prove the he is a leg puller narrow minded pakistani !
WHO THE HELL CARES THAT WHO INVENTED IT FIRST ??? WHO CARES THAT ITS FRAUD WHEN HE HAS GIVEN A DEMO !!
poor ppl of pakistan need cheap energy source !!!
We dont care about all the [Edited] in ur head !
we will appreciate Agha Waqar for all the practical things he did for Pakistan (even if its just a copy paste)
and you my engineer bro : shame on you for criticizing ! u never played your due positive part !
i think stop commenting abusing criticizing , we first need to check what is inside the kit means
internal equipments,fabrication material,accessories & the system he has made to crack H2 gas from water
only than we can be able to understand the theory of the project
Dear,it is too early to say that Agha,s invention is commercially acceptable or not,let the time must decide, however,if it is a truth,it will change whole face of this earth,it would be a greatest invention the human beings has made up till now.we must encourage him and try to find out what is truth rather than to reject the idea just because it does not matches the updated theories of physics.let me tell you some historical truths.As a student, Eisenstein was not given admission in science group in well renowned college of his town rather one of his teacher commented that he is even not fit for studying science.but i think soul of that teacher may be ashamed now on his comments. Galileo was hanged by so called wise men of the time when he stated that earth is round and it revolves around the sun. Alexander was a common biologist,he did not had any idea in mind before that fungus can be used to produce penicillin,it was just by chance he found it which proved to be a revolution in medical science. Mendelian laws of inheritance were discovered by a church teacher,he was not a Phd.Quinine was discovered just by chance because of adulteration of traders of that time.no body before newton.who was Aristotle? we call him father of science now,just a predictator.almost all of his predictions are now proved to be untrue,but we still respect him for giving new thoughts to his time which ultimately led to modern science.there are hundreds of such examples.so my dear,don,t be delouse,do not try to block new ideas and new thinking,let the time must prove it.last but not least,inventions and ideas is not inheritances of Europe and non Muslims only
Check the other one water car which developed by Dr. Ch. Ghulam Sarwar.
Can we Compare this water kit with Carnot engine? isn’t it against the law of thermodynamics?
What Faraz Ahmed is saying makes sense……only way Agha Waqar can be right if his process produce at least 200% more HHO with same amount of betray power used then perilously known methods.
Government ministers are also involved …this is most probably is a government sponsored stent to divert people’s attention from shortage of electricity in the country…..I am so sad that our heroes like Dr A.Q Khan and Hamid Mir are dragged into it…it will end up with embarrassment for us and our beloved country Pakistan….
this pathan has proved that pathans are really brainless ppl….hhhhhhh…
Simple is that his produced HHO gas should be weighted from 1 KW.hr energy input from battery.. if the clorific value of the gas produced by the Electrolysis process is more than the energy consumed.. then the first law of thermodynamics was wrong and he had developed a perpetual machine.. for this agha waqar should be awarded 1000 nobel prizes because he had solved the world energy problem.. if he proves lier.. then his right place is Kotlakhpat Jail , Lahore… simple is that..
Well i think it is not fraud. No one is using that kit in a hurry. It will be checked by the authorities, scientists, engineers then it will be tested then registering patent. Then it will be checked that it could be used in public or not.
Dear Faraz,
Your knowledge is very good so if you have resources then you have to meet that guy and communicate all of your concerns.
No one is going to invest before, it is approved by regular or authentic authorities.
As a common person we dont have to know the theories we need a practice that how it is done and we have seen that so we couldn’t deny of it.
shame u jel$e person. I m tolding u how it works. . . An element is crosing electricty from water and thy both generate a gas ish can flame. . And ths gase is going in corpater and car can run. . If it was already avail then why world is watching to pakistan for ths dvice. Shame yar i know he is sindhi and u can not resistance that. Jelious jelious
and u r [Edited]from sindhi. We love u Waqar.
Very good research and well written article.
I am NED graduate and working in automotive industry for last 20 years. S.Attique Shafaat, another NEDian who built Pakistan first solar car is my colleague.
We completely agree with all your technical arguments.
We appreciate your efforts to create awareness in Pakistani nation and understand this scam.
Madam, M totally agree with u
Strongly agree with the valid comments.I have still doubts in my mind but he is violating everything from the first step.Needs an thorough evaluation.He said Input water ouput water which means when water is condensed back or whatever some amount of energy will release which as an exothermic reaction.This is the same energy which is absorbed to break the bond which is in my knowledge alot of energy to be given which 12V battery cannot do.So where the energy came from to drive the car ? It means he is giving less energy and getting more than of it which is complete bullshit. I wish if he would have invented something new that could violate these laws.This method is tested and evaluated alot of times and it is failed.So don,t expect much.I wish it would have something new to make this country proud.I still believe it is a good effort to replicate the technology but don,t claim it is a new one.
Dear All
I also continuously watching all these programmes carefully, whatever he is saying about his invention and now counter arguments to negate his experience. I think in Pakistan we have many renowned scientist, it is there responsibility to examine carefully, according to Dr. A Q Khan that it will take only 15-20 minutes to check is he using any other source of energy or not? one question will be answered.
Another question that Battery will go down, needed long running to examine, team of engineers can check, start from Islamabad-Karachi or Karachi to Islamabad, easily it will be examined in how many hours battery go down or not. But i don’t understand why we are indulging in irrelevant debate, let them their job, if it is feasible than take advantage and appreciate and commercialize. but whatever is this we have to appreciate this person, without resources he has done this job.
My dear you are quoting hundreds of examples, they are also trying to do same job their respective governments supporting them, than why we do not support such kind of initiatives.
if we do not appreciate and support those person we will not justice with our self and Pakistan.
why you are not talking about Dr. Atta Rehman and other scientist how much those scientist have utilized the budget of our country but what they invented and gave us.
Mr.Faraz good job and thumbs up for sharing a nice brief research…..!!!
All these poople who are commenting here without any solid, even basic engineering knowledge just answer my question. do you have any how know about fuel sciences and modern researches in it? just sitting at yet PC and becoming pseudo intellectuals is not enough. bhai pehle ja k thora parh lo k what is this matter in real. :/
This is true that current regime will use it for political purposes. BUT its a matter of time, Ministry of Science and Technology is going to invite all stakeholders to examine the system, and if they pass it, it will be announced on 14th Aug. So this is matter of 2 weeks now, So be Positive guys.
What is running in my head is that: Agar ye scene chal para to Amrriikaa kia karay ga bechara
mr faraz ,
the water kit that you r talking and posted videos that do not run on 100% water but with some other fuel is also added.then how can u say that this technology is not new.on the one hand you r saying that it is not possible and on the other hand your saying that it has already been done?
and u said that minister is also involved.he demonstarted n front of scientists of pakistan engineering council,nust etc what were they doing?
Most of cementers are looking ilitrate or passed by copy culture they didnot know the basics of science.They are emotional muslims who only know fighting and blaming.Faraz ahmed u are doing good work to put light on hidden truths but our nation is ilitrate nation of world surely most of our people will go to HELL.
Mr Faraz I appreciate your perspective to see the things intelligently. But core point is not that either engine can run on hydrogen or water. They can and they are since decades. Its simple engineering any good engineer can do that. Core point is the claim which Agha has made i.e perpectual motion, means more than 100% efficiency and you can create energy without investing something. This is bullshit and totally impossible.
A wise man said, little knowledge is dangerous, but little knowledge with no concept is disaster (this also applies to media).
Just wait and see, this hoax will collapse with the dreams and money of many,
This guy is a complete fraud, what he is saying is impossible according to physics. He is making fun of physics, he has no knowledge of physics. He doesn’t look like an engineer he is not even matric pass. Even a matric student who have studied physics knows that he’s talking Bullshit.
well mr. faraz u cant say that its not possible coz it goes against law of conservation of energy. in past so many theories of physics have been proved wrong so this is not a valid reason to negate his work, as dr. atta ur rehman was also giving same reason to deny his efforts which is kinda stupid. theories are made to be proved wrong. but i agree with the part that it may be another tactic of ppp to divert attention of masses from energy crisis and other blunders of them. seriously think about it people, do u guys think that ppp government , most of whose members would must be owning some patrol pump somewhere in Pakistan, would let someone to make cars run on water? dont u think something is fishy?
i pray they prove me wrong
Bhai Ali mujhe nahi maloom ke ap science ke talib e ilm hain ya nahi. Very basic: Science = Observation -> Hypothesis -> Experiment -> Law.
Agar apko nahi pata tu aj sun len keh “Conservation of energy” ye 1 law hai. Dunyia main alag alag logon ne alag alag lab main isko prove bhi kia hai. aur ab ye ek law hai. ye esay hi law nahi banaya gaya hai isko ba qaida tor par lab main prove bhi kia gaya hai. isi tarha “1st Law of thermodynamics” and ” 2 nd law of thermo dynamics” and “3rd law of thermodynamics” ba qaida lab main prove honay ke bad Laws tasleem kiye gaye hain. An ginat inventions hain jo in qawaneen ki basis par wajood main ayi hain. Sirf ek misal deta hoon LASER. Kya ap Physics ke kisi ek law ki misal de sakte hain jo disprove hoa? Main yahan Law ki bat kar raha hoon Hypothesis ki nahi.
I just heard Agha Waqar on Dawn news .One of his fellow enginear claimed that this is little different then normal electrolysis(which use lot less energy ).If it is true then these three people will get a nobel prize for sure…
Yaar baat suno.. Faraz Sahab… jab ek banda sab kuch ker k dekha raha hai or bool raha hai k aao aa ker check ker lo.. apni car ley ker aa jao usko chala ker dekha doun ga.. phir kio accept nahi ker rahe ho.. jao ja ker check ker lo.. Dr. atta ko chaiye k wo ja ker check ker lein.. unki responsibility banti hai k wo ja ker deikhin.. fazool mei unko keh deina k ye fruad hai.. nonsense kehna.. ek banda ager koi kaam kerta hai mulk k liye aap bina usko deikhy bina tehqeeq k usko fruad bolo nonsense bolo tou ye baat tou ghalt hai na…
2nd baat ye k ab agha waqar jo hain wo sab scientist k saamny experiment ker k dekha rahe hain.. kesi ny unko ghalt nahi bola hai.. ky fruad hai etc etc.. ager kuch ghapla hota tou usi waqat sab mamla khatam ho jaata.. baat itni c hai k jo loag mukhalifat ker rahe hain.. kia wo loag Petrol mafia CNG mafia k hatoun bik gaye hain..???
I support Mr. Faraz. We are not critisizing Mr. Agha but the fact is that this device has been invented decades ago and Mr. Agha has made a replica of it and we are appreciating it. But its not true to call it his own invention….The ones who are critisizing Mr. Faraz should search and read article on internet then say something…..
Reality About Agha Waqar Water Car Kit. http://t.co/H6NtKHlO
faraz may be ryt may b wrong..japaneese hav invented watr kits and convrtd hydrogn wd sme meanz into power or electrcty..
nw the point is agha claimed that he is getting so much hydrogen which is trade secret by his luck or exprimnts that he can even run a train engine plus he is saying this can only be done by distilled watr so i thnk there might be smthng he has invetnted to break watr and got enough enormous quantity of hydrogen to run engines…
those who r talking about law of conservation of energy..keep that in mind hydrogen can produce huge amount of energy…. this is smthng different u r convrting water into hydrogen..a complete chnge in chemical structre.. chmical structure change meanz cmplt chng in physcal n chmcl properties… so we can say that from very stable water we have produced much reactive hydrogen by litl amount of batry by electrolysis..electrolysis dosent need huge amount of electricity…when engine will run from hydrogen it wil run genrator also and wil charge the batry lost power which was used for electrolysis………………….
THIS IS REALLY POSSIBLE AGHA HAS GOT SOMETHING WHICH WORLD DOSNT HAVE.. TAKING IT POSSITIVELY WORKING ON IT CAN CHANGE THE CURRENT POSITION OF OUR COUNTRY…
I am a mechanical engineer and I totally agree with you Faraz and its just the matter of time people will agree too though I do appreciate his initiative.
with all due respect, people don’t jump to conclusions right away scientifically and technologically its not possible so let the time decide.
Shaik Chillies of Modren Era
Divert Attention form Real Issue of Transportation
The main issue is the difference of energy. Input energy will always be greater than output energy. Vehicles charge battery by its alternator but this is not much enough because losses will also include. If we can charge battery by other means (by solar or wind) than their idea is feasible. If we installed small wind turbine with charge controller on the car than it will charge battery continuously. Mr Faraz please give response to my idea
Hi Tanveer,
1. Then it wouldn’t called Water Car
2. Why convert gas why not run car via electric directly instead of converting it into HHO.
Thanks and best regards
Faraz Ahmed.
Nice..! in your article you have suggested the links for this technology. Can I ask where were these links before the agha waqar pathan invention?
Mister it would be better if agha should be encouraged for his technology because he is the one who want to solve the energy crises of our country. I accept that there could be some problems with it but somebody should come forward and should solve it. Agha should be encouraged.
THUMBS UP. KEEP UP Bro. Any person with IntermediateA-level education could tell that AGHA WAQAR is a fraud. like faraz said, it is appriciateable that he has introduced it in Pakistan. However its all a political scam and a fraud. and after watching CAPITAL TALk episode as mentioned above, em forced to believe that agha waqar is not even Inter pass
@ali and all,
Please refine your concept, theories can be proved wrong because they are just theories. Law of energy is a law (Law of nature) laws were never broken and voilated. Only GOD has power to alter these laws.
Just to elaborate the concept, theories are given by scientists and its basically a perspective which can be right ot wrong. Laws are discoved from nature, & then proved mathematically.
Thirdly if you can create energy, it measn E=mc2, you can create matter??? if you can create matter then you can create universe, then where is GOD.
You are absolutely right. The Toyota and BMW are investing billions of dollars on this research and the best they can do is that they are using mixture of fuels with water and a person who don.t know the law of conversation of energy is able to do it with. We are being fooled by this man in Hamir mir show not a single word of technical knowledge has come out of his mouth. This is our nation who can just go with the tide , where ever these politicians drive us we go with without any intelligence. Thanks to the author who done research and provide us with this article and for the people who are saying that he is jealous. They represent the thinking of a typical pakistani which are being used by politicians for more that 50 years.
leave ev thng..hydrogn is cheap gas.y we cant manufctre hydrogn at industrial scale by most suitable and cheapest method ..and instead of cng or gasoline as fuel we use hydrogen as a fuel considrng all safety conditions for hydrogen pumps and specialy designd hydrogn cylndrz fr cars………….
Ali who fool guy told u that producing Hydrogen is cheaper? Secondly it is the lightest gas and it has a very low density at NTP. Therefore it is very difficult to store as u will need very large containers. Can you please tell the dinsity of hydrogen in Kg/Cubic M?
Who said hydrogen is cheap and electrolysis dont take much energy. To generate 1Kg of hydrogen you need approx 45kWH. At standard electricity rate of 10Rs/KWH you will invest 450Rs to get 1Kg of hydrogen (Also add investment margins & taxes) from electrolysis. Hydrogen is not used in vehicles because its not economical.Some companies do make hydrogen cars for special applications (sports) but its not standard utility.
Mr.Faraz after reading your blog,i would like to ask you that if japan have made this water car,why it is not commercialized?
and secondly i agree that always some amount of energy loss during any process but how will you jutify that energy can not be created nor be destroyed but it can be changed from one form to another form…
my friend problem is this if someone do good work in pakistan no one appreciate.becuase your psychology has been changed by eurpeons.
i remember that when pakistan had to finalize its atomic bomb,there was something missing..our scientists tried to find it everywhere in the world but no one found.
at the end,it is found in pakistani market where a very lower middle class person was making it…
so broad your vision and not behave like INDIANS.
Good research and fact finding, we should encourage and promote local talent provided its genuine, if some one is introducing a technology, he shd only take the credit for introduction not invention. just saw an interview of Qamar Khan, he has also introduced a kit which reduces fuel consumption, he even mentioned the name of the amercian firm that is making those kits, he has just made the local version of the same kit and is planning to spread it for public use.
@Farrukh, “Energy can niether be created nor destroyed”….Because creation is GODs property, no human can do that, to elaborate the cocept i would like to share a joke.
When human civilization attained its peak, the engineers of world called a meeting and it was discussed that we can do anything so we dont need GOD anymore, they collectively send an engineer to GOD to communicate the message.
In front of GOD, engineer repeated the same claim. GOD said OK you can do any thing? then make a human being.
Engineer said its not a problem and pick some dust from ground to start the process. GOD said..Un..HHHn, create your own dust, and the claim was smashed.
If you can create energy, you can create matter and ultimately the universe. So if you are not GOD, dont think about that.
faraz as you are describing that this thing is invented decades ago then why, we do not observing it’s utilization. there would some draw backs in their feasibility.
may agha has sweep away these pitfalls and his development/moderation in this technology make it feasible.
if this thing is invented decades ago then why, we do not observing it’s utilization. there would be some draw backs in their feasibility.
may agha has sweep away these pitfalls and his development/moderation in this technology make it feasible.
Bhai yehi to asal wajah hai. Pehli bat ye hai keh ye tariqa “technilogy” kay zumray main nahi ata yani it is not a proven technology. Yani Philips ke bulb ki tarha nahi hai keh jahan bhi lagao ek jesi light milti hai. 2ndly is tariqay se jo results atay hain woh zyada stable nahi hain. 3Rdly is tariqay ki wajah se car ki battery ki life jald khatam ho jati hai. Yani is tareqay saving itni nahi ho pati jitna dosri chezon ka kharcha zyada ho jata hai.
You didn’t mentioned anything related to quantum
Physics.. Physics on molecular scale…!! This is possible of using purely water for running vehicle…!! Agha Waqar may not know about quantum physics, but if his car is running 100% on water then surely accedently, he is succeeded after 3.5 years of multiple experiments…!! He may have titanium electrodes in his kit, and a resonator for producing HHO…
Engineer Waqar has created a lot of stir lately. So far, I dont find anything original or unique in his kit which could set it apart from the ones already available even in Lahore (Hafeez Center). BUT, his claim of inventing some ‘new’ process can only and only be established if he applies and eventually GETS a patent on this, even in Pakistan!!!
What I believe “if” Agha Waqar is right in his claim he has given a mighty blow to the law of Conservation of Energy (a 120 years old, widely accepted law in thermodynamics) however can’t we all wait for a while, let the brains from different universities examine it and time will tell who is right or who is wrong…
Agha waqar did an excellent job and should be given Nobel if he actually did what he is claiming and if wrong should be behind the bars for playing with the emotions of the nation…
LET THE TIME DECIDE!!!
indeed the technology is already present for many years, but the problem is to produce enough HHO to run a car engine. If this guy has produced such amount to HHO, then it is real, otherwise he is mixing some other source of fuel to run the car.
For every litre of engine 0.5 litre/min of HHO is required to run it, e.g 5 L engine wud required 2.5 Litre/min of HHO. There are devices models which can produce about 2 litres/min of HHO. Producing more than that is not impossible, its just trial n error method.
There is a lot new to come in HHO tech..Dont discuss just 1st law of thermodynamics, as its not violating it, as more than 2 volts will not have more production effect n the energy will b lost as heat, so there are methods to utilize more than 2 volts (as car battery is 12-14 volts) and produce more HHO.
lets wait n see.
Please do not mix HHO gas with H gas. HHO means mixture of Hydrogen and Oxygen, its extremely dangrous & self detonating due to the presence of Oxygen but Hydrogen is not sel detonating.
For the knowledge of all those Johlaa who consider hamid Mir as a source of knowledge, I beg to differ. Water kit was invented on the same day when the formula of H20 was discovered. This has never been and can never be used in commercial production because cost of production of energy through this source is quite high. However, our friend Dr Sohail (doctorate in engineering) is installing this kit in all types of vehicles for the last many years. Anybody interested can install it right now from Central Flat Stop, Faisal Town, Lahore but it will give 60 per cent of saving in energy and fuel and not 100 per cent like hybrid cars.
By the way, who are criticize engineer waqar should not put a hand on Haqooq of Sindh and stop anti Sindhi attitude. I hope to see such post on this blog in future too.
You can listen my program on it at http://www.dadapota.pk of date August 1, 2012
This Agha is foooool and agent of our minsiter shah
what you showed is completely diffrent from that..
..
you showed about converting water into electric power ..
but that guy has converting water into fuel …..
both this are completely different
for examples tube light and bulb
both gives light and take electricity as energy but there is a difference in working of both …..
i think Mr Faraz Ahmed is totaly right. Mr Agha Waqar pick the beaten idea.and our so called media didnot take little pain to get some research before throw any thing on air..
but i am appriciating agha waqar too that he tried to some positive side . .
Yaar i think if Agha is right and he really invented this super kit why he is waiting for govt. to support???? really its not a joke.
He just give proposal to a company such as pharmaceutical, distribution or transport company to convert their viehicles on water kit they definately support him and invest on him if he convert thier just only one vehicle ……. that will be the first drop of rain.
What u think if agha sahab offer u to install a kit in your car for 50000 and payment after installation which will take 1 or 2 hours …what do u think ????
you will accept or reject?????
Think like a businessman if this water kit is really as it as agha claims its not just a business it will be a revolution.
can anyone has agha’ s contact no. or email plz provide me.
May be next year im at the no 1 in rating of world richest persons with agha waqar in Forbes Magazine
Mr Faraz is right without any doubts and Mr. waqar has no knowledge of what he is saying. Mr. waqar has proved one thing that it is soooo easy to make our nation fool.
DR.Samar mubarik Exposed water kit of Pakistani engr for car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip1IE0NSuRM
See I was right see my comments above
Enmy of Islam and Pakistan HOOD BHAIE making fun of Pakistani scientests and Media because of Agha Waqar Water Car Kit
ok mr faraz, as energy can not be created nor destroy but convert from form to another it means energy is there always but when conversion process starts some energy loss occours due to workdone in minus form from total energy revolves during conversion, so this theory shows that the only small energy loss occours not too much big, so when water is electrolyted from the source of battery power definately energy loss is always in factor due to electrical energy of battery source come into potential energy form of water ,so as it reaches potential energy of water it dissociates into its chemical form of reaction H2O now it starts boiling and creates steam means potential energy from it stored form kinetic energy in motion form as the hydrogen gas is very much powerful gas itself so its kinetic energy in its motion form like steam generated goes to the path where it directed means in to engine and engine starts operates, its not against the any physics laws ,yes energy loss is there but in small which can be neglected, like see a generator on fuel running getting convetring chemical into electrical energy, is this system is free of loss energy when conversion happens, yes energy loss occours in this process well so you say due to loss energy it is not possible to run generator but everyone does that and gets energy very much still ,if this heat dissipation system is there on fuel system than will be on water but its not a big issue so called Mr. Faraz..
hi MR FRAZ AHMAD , i totally agree with all your explanations, examples but if we replace the small battery of car a large one such as of ups battery and also we charge this battery by our ups then place in our car as we can use two batteries alternatively in our car then wouldn’t it be economical if compared with today’s fuel prices???
I ALREADY MADE ONE HHO WATER KIT.
ITS SO SIMPLE
All who make comments on Honorable Agha Sahib they must know how his kit works.
Here I am elaborating the construction of his kit. Where, I will try to address the questions of many.
1. Why Agha uses distilled water? Is he adding some hidden substance? How electrolysis is possible without a catalyst?
2. What is the battery usage during Special Type of electrolysis?
3. How milliamps of current are able to break water molecule?
4. Is it possible from electrolysis to produce a large quantity of hydrogen that it can work without storage?
5. Is it possible from electrolysis to produce a large quantity of hydrogen that it can work without mixing other fuels?
First of all you have to understand resonance.
RESONANCE: In some mechanical and electronic mechanisms when Energy is applied with some Rhythm (frequency) Output of the energy becomes much higher than energy applied constantly. The frequency required in a system to occur resonance is called resonant frequency of the system.
Example:
1. Pushing a person in a swing is a common example of resonance. The loaded swing, a pendulum, has a natural frequency of oscillation, its resonant frequency, and resists being pushed at a faster or slower rate. (Wikipedia)
2. On bridges army soldiers are asked to not to walk in rhythm because little force produced due to their walk could lead to the breakage of bridge which required tons of force. There are several event done like Tacoma Narrows Bridge etc. in which accidents happened due to resonance.
There are several types of resonance:
1. MECHANICAL RESONANCE: I had examples above.
2. OPTICAL RESONANCE: Even laser are an example of optical resonance. Please read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_cavity
3. NUCLEAR RESONANCE: Please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_magnetic_resonance
4. PARTICLE RESONANCE: Please read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance_(particle)
5. ORBITAL RESONANCE: Please read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_resonance
6. CHEMICAL RESONANCE: Please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance_(chemistry)
7. ELECTRICAL RESONANCE: LC circuit is one example of Electrical resonance. Please read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_resonance
Here in AGHA SAHIB’S METHOD Electrical resonance is used; in which an LC circuit is produce. (to know about LC circuit please read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LC_circuit).
LC circuits are also of two types one is parallel and one is series. Agha Sahib uses Series LC circuit.
AGHA SAHIB uses a physical coil and a Capacitor is composed of a special mechanism.
CAPACITOR in AGHA SAHIB’s TECHNIQUE: AGHA SAHIB dips many (at least 20) plates of metal in Distilled Water. Half of the plates alternatively are attached with one end of circuits and half with other. Water will work as Dielectric and (20) Plates will work as (10) capacitors.
LC Circuit. This (20) metal plates dipped in distilled water based capacitor (for simplicity we will call it MPDWC) is attached with a physical coil.
RESONANT FREQUENCY: Capacitance of MPDWC and Inductance of coil is measured hence putting into Series RC formula resonant frequency is measure.
SUPPLY of Alternating Resonant Voltage: 12V are taken from simple car battery then converted into mostly 110 volts AC. This AC has frequency same as the resonance frequency of MPDWC and above coil. Then AC is bridge rectified but not stabilized. So Positive Polar wave is obtained (there are ups and downs as AC but positive remains positive and negative remains negative.)
Depending on LC construction These voltage sometimes may lead to millions of volts. Water molecules in between plates could not resist to such a high voltage so they break up in Hydrogen and Oxygen. Interesting thing is the Amperes used by this Mechanism is just in milliamps. So there is no significant use of Battery. If common usage of battery is 8-10 Amps, Milli Amps will add no more visible load.
1. This Circuit Uses Distilled Water. Because Water is working as dielectric so it must be non conductor and Distilled Water is a non conductor any impurity or chemical will not let the system work.
2. Battery usage is minimal so no harm to battery and System slaps at the face of first law of thermodynamics and its advocates.
3. Runtime Sufficient Hydrogen is produced so no need of storage and there is no danger at all.
4. Due to sufficient Hydrogen System needs no other fuel mixed. That’s why it is threatening the fossil fuel deposit owners to shout against Agha Sahib because, Deposits of their Oil and Gas will be a story of past in near future.
Here is a video showing glimpse of the mechanism similar to AGHA SAHIB’s mechanism at very basic level.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=4l1PfmTheFM
Holly …When these guys will understand gqverments cheap triks and stunts…
Well, how you can say that Agha Waqar is being used for political reasons, when he is basically non-political person. Your [Edited] when person like him come up with great invention from the province of Sindh. You seems to be ethnically biased as well. Such a [Edited]that you are that you cant even appreciate an honest work by Agha and start posting whatever rubbish you could hoard to undermine his Genius. Petty that you are [Edited].
wait few more days you will agree with me….
I think we are all pakistani ….I have more sindhi friends then any other language….this is nothing to do with any language…
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?126574-Aaj-Kamran-Khan-k-Sath-3rd-August-2012-Pervez-Hoodbhoy-amp-Umar-Cheema-Reality-Behind-Water-Kit-Car-Imran-Khan-s-Press-Conference-amp-SC-Verdict-Against-New-Law-for-Contempt
great work dear FARAZ AHMED. i just amazed about the pcsir de who was sitting and also appreciating agha waqar. he knew nothing about science and is the ceo of pcsir.shame
dr attaturehman is great and he said everyting was right.great work faraz
Agha has used newly INVENTED wonderful method of Series LC circuit RESONANCE in electrolysis. RESONANCE: In some mechanical and electronic mechanisms when Energy is applied with some Rhythm (frequency) Output of the energy becomes much higher than energy applied constantly. The frequency required in a system to occur resonance is called resonant frequency of the system.. Following video can explain what Agha ahs used with additional modification. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=4l1PfmTheFM
Many Theoretical Scientists and Ph.D are Jahil Ignorant who attach this invention with the “Law of Conservation of Energy” These Ph.D’s are like a donkey loaded with Books[Quran 62:5}. That biggest invention of millennium has no relation with law of conservation of energy. In Patrol car Fuel pump is run by Battery and in water Car instead of fuel pump, tiny current of continuously recharging battery will be used to crack water into OH and H gases with CONTROLLED VERY UNIQUE METHOD OF ELECTROLYSIS, In this invention neither Energy is being CREATED nor DESTROYED; therefore It in no way violates the Law of conservation of Energy. It is just transforming chemical energy of water into heat energy and then after burning in engine to Mechanical energy. So simply, nothing is changed except that black Petrol has been replaced by White-Petrol[Water}. Black Petrol carry Hydrogen also and White-Petrol Water carry Hydrogen gas also. So any Ph.D or a so called scientists who says, that this inventions violates Law of conservation of Energy is THE BIGGEST HIMAAR[Donkey} on this planet.
Electrolysis is old technique but might be Agha has used some special unique technique with capacitors that uses very litter current. It might be that during that process partially fusion is going on too. Besides, Science is not dogma or scripture like Noble Quran that will not change. Science has falsified many times its own laws over time. Popular Dalton theory about Atom 70 years ago has been fully rejected and falsified by modern Atomic Physics of Today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfmihe9TGW4&feature=context-cha
Important Questions:
If water kit is made, will it work forever? How often the consumer will need to change the SECRET things inside the kit?
How expensive are those things inside the kit? Are these SECRET things of kit available in abundance or rare?
Tharparker ki matti ka experiment demo nahi hua. Phooki hue cheeni ka demo bhi nahi hua. Jabkay water kit ka demo successfully hua hay.
I respect all the scientists and their questions about the kit. All their remarks are proving the device an impossible thing.
But in reality its working live! It’s really happening just in a small container.
Whatever things are present in the kit, these at-least can be obtained from anywhere in our locality and we don’t have to install huge oil refineries to extract the fuel and spend billons of dollar acquiring services of foreigners. Petrol & diesel are going to be history from now on.
Try putting CNG, Petrol & Distilled water side by side and show some fire to them you’ll know which one is explosive and which one is safe.
EASY FUEL NO POLLUTION! Because water is life.
Even a kid can explain the points rose in this video. The gas is leaking from the kit? Where is the common sense? The device is prepared by the individuals with no high-tech equipments and machines. The invention is in basic shape. It require support which is sadly absent in our nation.
I wish someone give Agha Waqar some words or honest TEAM to fight with the scientific calculations presented by honorable scientists.
The only thing is not coming in picture is what’s in Agha Waqar’s water kit? This is definitlely the answer of all the questions. We should brand the product and keep it secret.
However Agha need to workout statistics about the water kit. For example he can analyze & present with proof that if someone uses that kit, how much it will cost him in a year the cost including maintenance & replacement of the elements inside the kit.
Guys it’s happening in Pakistan! Step into the future.
Please check this:
http://www.facebook.com/WaterKitAghaWaqar
Lolz create page 1 hour ago posted 6 copy/paste posts and start marketing.
Dude dont follow someone blindly do some research by yourself.
The stuff you have posted I think even Agha Waqr dont know that much science
He thinks HHO can only be produced by water :p
Agha Waqar is a mechanic, his degree must be checked. He does not know anything about physics and science. Must be sponsered by PPP as he is from sindh.
The other two clowns with Agha waqar Mechanic must be put in jail (Resonance ka topic apply kya hai).
These 3 stoges made pakistani ppl fool (Pakistani ppl including AQ Khan are just dumb and stupid)
I did not expect this from AQ Khan, Now I believe that US is telling the truth… AQ stole nuclear formula
let me show you guys something from where it had been started,read the article carefully.
and one more thing.FOLLOW THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS,The Basis of every system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer%27s_water_fuel_cell
sir Ahmad Faraz, would you kindly comment on TahirACreole. How does resonance obeying the 1st law ? moreover how does burning of a match stick, of petrol/diesel in engine or of even sui gas in stove is in accordance with 1st law ? these require only a little spark but produces a huge amount of energy compared to that spark.
Another important question i have for you, which is about a perpetual motion matchine.Here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27-3TKKXsm4
see, electricity can be generated using heavy duty natural magnets for no input energy. there is only output….. see that is FREE ENERGY. again against 1st law of thermodynamics.
What do you say ?
sorry, sir FARAZ AHMAD, by mistake i’ve written your name as ahmad faraz. sorry again.
Any wise person can understand at the spot that it is despicable crime to declare Agha Waqar a fraud with out finding physically any fraud in car that he has already demonstrated in front of top journalists politicians and many Ph.D’s. Some theoretical Ph.D’s has launched hate campaign against the greatest inventor of mankind history Agha Waqar. All objections of these some IRRESPONSIBLE Ph.D’s do not carry any weight and sense. They WRONGLY claim, this invention violates laws of science; in fact it does not. The reason of their totally absurd claims is their jealousy against inventor & their inability to understand that new invention. Sometime they say, Agha is not engineer, so he cannot invent. But Edison the biggest inventor of history was too neither Ph.D nor even B.Engg. Ata Rehman & Hoodbhoy are driving in wrong direction on one way road. Their all hue & cry is, that car cannot be run on electrolysis with battery but they do not know that method of Agha is ABSOLUTELY not conventional Electrolysis. When they will know his method, they will not sleep many nights
It was so simple when I saw the size of kit I understood that its totally fraud.He placed calcium carbide in his kit when small amount of water mixed with it it makes acetylene gas that gas than used to run the car.we had made fun of calcium carbide in our childhood.When carbide stone is placed in a container with small hole inside then drooping a small qty of water drop in it.After closing when ignited at the bottom it explode and in reaction its cork fly away. Acetylene gas is also used in gas welding.
Water Car: Prologue.
Any wise person can understand at the spot that it is despicable crime to declare Agha Waqar a fraud with out finding physically any fraud in car that he has already demonstrated in front of top journalists politicians and many Ph.D’s. Some theoretical Ph.D’s has launched hate campaign against the greatest inventor of mankind history Agha Waqar. All objections of these some IRRESPONSIBLE Ph.D’s do not carry any weight and sense. They WRONGLY claim, this invention violates laws of science; in fact it does not. The reason of their totally absurd claims is their jealousy against inventor & their inability to understand that new invention. Sometime they say, Agha is not engineer, so he cannot invent. But Edison the biggest inventor of history was too neither Ph.D nor even B.Engg. Ata Rehman & Hoodbhoy are driving in wrong direction on one way road. Their all hue & cry is, that car cannot be run on electrolysis with battery but they do not know that method of Agha is ABSOLUTELY not conventional Electrolysis. When they will know his method, they will not sleep for many nights.
A Bold truth is, that a few theoretical Scientists and Ph.D’s are Jahil Ignorant who attach this invention with the “Law of Conservation of Energy” These Ph.D’s are like that donkey of Noble Quran that is loaded with Books (Quran 62:5). Agha’s Water-Kit is the greatest invention of mankind history & that invention has no any relation with the law of conservation of energy & Law of thermodynamics. Soon a time will come when these a few Jahil theoretical Ph.Ds who are insulting Agha Waqar in “TV SHOWS”, will be hiding their faces from public. Please note that the biggest “Practical Ph.D scientist” of Pakistan A.Q Khan has supported this invention. A Ph.D has good knowledge but he cannot claim that he knows all and his knowledge is complete. COMPLETE KNOWLEDGE IS ONLY with Allah Jalla Aala Aleem-ul-Khabir. If I have not visited Lahore that does not mean that I should claim that Lahore does not exist. Existing our some theoretical Ph.Ds has no ability to understand that greatest Invention of Agha Waqar. But instead of admitting that they do not have ability to understand that new invention; they are yelling on this humble gentleman Agha by declaring him fraud. This is extremely irresponsible attitude. Unless fraud is caught physically in that car; no one has right to announce in TV shows that it is fraud. Ph.D’s know of course many things; YET THEY DO NOT KNOW EVERY THING. Only Allah Aleem-ul-Khabir Knows everything. When Prophet Moses claimed that he was the most learned man of that time; Allah sent him Wahi & said O Moses: This is not correct, I have people on this earth who have even more knowledge than you. He was then advised to travel with Khizer (detail is in Sura Kahaf in Glorious Quran)
We sincerely say, that If Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton, & King of Inventors Thomas Edison were alive today, they would had travelled to the house of Agha Waqar in Khairpur Sindh Pakistan to salute Agha Waqar. If “Alfred Nobel” of Sweden could come out of his grave today, he could has suggested “Nobel Prize Committee” that please change name of “Nobel Prize” to “Agha Waqar Prize”. Reader should note that king of inventors EDISON who also invented electrical lamp was so poor that he used to sell Newspapers and used to cultivate vegetables in his house, so to sell them in order to pay expenses of his education. A jealous group who is against the invention of Agha Waqar says, how a diploma holder can invent. First of all Agha has Bachelor in Technology B.Tech, Moreover, reader should note that the biggest inventor of history Thomas Edison was a simple technician. He was not B.Engg or Ph.D.
First of all, reader should know that Agha is not very good in theory so was unable to explain his greatest invention of mankind history in theoretical terms. He even does not know that what he has invented is a complete new invention that easily cracks water into H and OH & his new technique does not need more current from car battery except tiny milliamps that is less than even the consumption of car radio. So practically there will be no any additional load on car battery. A professional engineer at the spot can know the fact that it is not electrolysis because electrolysis cannot be activated with distilled water. And we know that Agha waqar’s kit uses distilled water. In fact he has invented complete new method which is IN NO WAY conventional electrolysis that need too much electric power to proceed
Law of Conservation says that energy neither be produced not destroyed but energy can be transformed from one form to other. In Agha’s Kit invention, neither Energy is being CREATED nor DESTROYED; therefore it in no way violates the Law of conservation of Energy or thermodynamics. It is just transforming chemical energy of water into heat energy and then after burning in engine to Mechanical energy. So simply, nothing is changed except that black Petrol has been replaced by White-Petrol[Water}. Black Petrol carries Hydrogen also and White-Petrol Water carries Hydrogen gas also. So any Ph.D or a so called scientists who says, that this inventions violates Law of conservation of Energy for sure he is telling lies to people. The main objection by some these Theoretical useless Ph.Ds is that car battery is unable to sustain the electrical supply to electrolysis unit of that invented KIT because as per these theorists, Energy produced by electrolysis will be less than the energy being consumed by battery and car will not run. But we all have seen that Car is running. That is itself Proof that what Theorists has assumed is incorrect otherwise car MUST NOT RUN but it runs in practice. This is the most important part of this invention. Now this objection of theoretical Ph.Ds seems correct if old conventional technique of electrolysis is used that need too much electric power to proceed. But Agha’s team has invented a new technique of Electrolysis which is core part of this invention. In Agha’s technique, he has used distilled water to make it dialectic between about 20 metallic plates & he put that unit in series RLC circuit that he managed/calculated to operate at resonance level that periodically produce millions of volts, changes plates with distilled water’s dielectric into a very powerful capacitance. In that scenario, Water becomes unable to hold bond between H and OH ions and huge quantity of H & OH gases start to produce. Following video can show u how it works. http://is.gd/vEJETl Because reaction is in resonance so it is now almost self-sustaining. To convert it from “almost self-sustaining” to “100% sustaining” a very little current from car battery is supplied to that gas-producing unit; that current in milliamps is so small that even less than the current that Car Radio uses.
Also note that Car battery is always charged by builtin electric DC Generator of car in every car when car is running. Therefore in practice this invention will have no any effect on the capacity and life of car battery. It is like mechanical benefit. For example, can one person lift his car with his one hand above ground? Answer is NO. But one person when places Jack between his hand and car, he can now lift car easily. Resonance in RLC circuit is in lieu of that mechanical Jack that lifts car easily. Another example is pendulum of big wall Clock. Another Example is Swing of girl (In Punjabi Kurree) that she makes after tying rope at the branch of tree. At the beginning, she needs someone to push her in swing [external force] but later she will continue swing herself. Now periodically a little external push is needed to keep her continue. Another Example is big wheel. U need force to move it. But when it is is rotating, u need very little external force to continue its rotation. For new invention also very little current of battery is needed to keep the reaction continue. Besides, there is high probability [to be investigated in future] that periodic pulse of millions volts among metallic plates also can fuse some hydrogen partially that creates so big energy that system will easily sustain. Even if we ignore fusion, so high voltage will increase production of H and OH exponentially from 100 to thousands time more than conventional old style electrolysis which will be more than enough that is needed by Car. Kit size is also a factor in production rate. For example for railway engine or a factory, either more Kits or bigger Kits will be designed.
The biggest test to prove a truth is practical demonstration in front of people which is eyewitness and observation. If old theories of man-made books contradict eye-witnessed demonstration then either old theory is wrong or it need update as per new invention. Agha Waqar has demonstrated his water car in front of journalists, politicians, ministers and many many Ph.D engineers. No one was able to find any fraud in his car. Unless fraud is found physically in that invented water car; it is moral bankruptcy and cheapness to declare that this man is doing fraud. There is another Jealous group of liars who first of all deny this greatest invention owing to their ignorance and inablity to understand this invention. Moreover they are spreading lies every where that what Agha has done is already being done by people from many years. These shameless liars must know that no one ever succeeded in this world to run car SOLELY on 100% Water by replacing petrol 100%. In past people tried not to replace petrol by water but to reduce the consumption of petrol by blending in it some gas. Agha is first person in world who has replaced 100% petrol by water. Just throw petrol tanks away and use water only.
Thu this invention does not violates any law of physics but we should also tell truth that Science is not dogma or scripture like Noble Quran that will not change. Science has been falsified many times by its own new laws over time. Popular Dalton theory about Atom 70 years ago has been fully rejected and falsified by modern Atomic Physics of Today. Newton’s laws of motion were suspended on September 11th 2001, after 314 years..2nd law of thermodynamics is in fact already debunked in past, see proof at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv53K9MnDuM Also we should know another truth that thu it is good to achieve an Ph.D but a Ph.D is never a license for new inventions. In fact if we study past history, majority of great inventors like Edison were just simple hardworking technicians. This is matter of fact that In Pakistan B.Sc Engineers and Ph.D’s think that how a graduate of Technology can invent? This kind of their thought is based on total nonsense and jealousy. I suggest reader to read following file in which each step of Agha’s invention is given in detail. This file is an excellent source of info for who has good understanding in engineering physics. To Sum up: That Water-kit of Agha team is indeed the greatest invention of mankind history. It will change whole globe and soon no one will be buying petrol. [Author of this article is in the field of practical Engineering physics from over two decades].
http://is.gd/hkaVsb
Debunking all articles and TV shows of Ata Rehman and Hoodbhoy AND OF OTHER Fake Ph.D’s:
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Mr. Ata ur Rehman:
Refereing to your recent crap article published in The News International 11/12 August 2012, our reply is as under:
Your objection on this invention and your slandering campaign against this invention is ONLY AND ONLY based on your stubbornness, ignorance and jealousy. I can prove it as follow that what you have said is nothing but a piece of crap that can only be expected from a mentally retarded beast who is burning in Jealousy:
1- You said that Agha is running car w/o external source. This is ur lie. Water has Hydrogen gas and Petrol has same gas too. In petrol car, battery runs fuel pump and in Agha’s car the current that is used for fuel pump is used to crack water into gases. So ur slander that it is perpetual machine is false and absurd. His new method is new invention and ABSOLUTELY NOT ELECTROLYSIS. U cannot activate electrolysis in distilled water.
2- You said Agha has no Engineering Degree so he cannot be inventor. This your argument is EXTREMELY shameful because It is absolutely not necessary to have Ph.D or B.E Engg in order to invent. Your this extremely shameful argument can be fully debunked because the biggest inventor of history Thomas Edison was neither a Ph.D nor have B.E Engg. This is fact that most of great inventors were not well versed in theory of sciences. They were just Technicians/Technologists like Agha.
3- In your TV Shows and in ur articles you have frequently declared Agha a Fraud even with out finding any physical fraud in his car that he has demonstrated already in front of many people. It is your total moral bankruptcy that you are mongering slanders of fraud even w/o Proof against that humble inventor. As per Islamic law, You deserve 80 stripes on your back or u bring physical Proof of fraud.
4- At the end of your article, you have said that GOV should give exemplary punishment to Agha. This is again your extremely preposterous claim as you are suggesting punishment against the greatest inventor of mankind history against whom you have no any proof of fraud. In fact Gov must give that exemplary punishment to you because it is you and not Agha who is misleading people and it is you who has proved himself a big slander monger.
5- Truth is this, that Agha is not well versed in theory but yet have brought mother of all inventions. You and your old books have no ability yet to understand this invention. This is ABSOLUTELY NOT ELECTROLYSIS but a new technique. A liter water has energy equal to millions of KW too if u understand what I mean-fusion. You claim that you are Ph.D; yet you do not understand, that in distilled water, electrolysis cannot be activated. Your Ph.D must be investigated if it is not bogus. Because Agha is not well versed in theory, this is why he wrongly introduced his method as electrolysis. IT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT ELECTROLYSIS because battery cannot run car through electrolysis.
6- The biggest proof of TRUTH is practical demonstration of invention in front of people which is eye witness through observation. That what Agha has already done. If you are unable to understand that invention, that does not mean it is fraud but its mean, you have yet no ability to understand that invention & so you must educate yourself and updated your old man-made laws and theories as per new invention. Are you Allah? No. Only Allah has complete knowledge. A Ph.D know many things YET DO NOT KNOW EVERY THING. In Agha’s system, his invention provides trigger for reaction, then that reaction is almost self-Sustaining. To change it from “Almost Self-Sustaining” to “SUSTAINING”, It need periodical push from car battery. But that push is in milliamps and so small that it is less than the current that car radio uses. Ata Rehman. I will not yet disclose secrets of this invention though I know it fully. I just give u hint and if your brain is still young, that will pick it. In his method Agha’s team provides trigger to start reaction & after, that reaction can be sustained with very very little current from battery. Consider example of Kerosene lamp. You start/lit it once by a little fire; then that works itself. only you have to add kerosene periodically to continue it. Instead of kerosene of this example in Agha’s Kit is needed very little current in milli-amps and more distilled water periodically so that it continues.
7- You also claimed that what Agha has done is already been done by many in past. Here you have told again 100% lie. In past people has blended gas with petrol to reduce cost of Petrol but no one ever succeeded to replace petrol 100% by water. Agha is the first person who has done so and his invention is clear a TRUTH as is Sun on sky. and u will see it.
As much as I want this to be true, I am afraid we do not live in an ideal world. Agha Waqar may be a hero for people who don’t know jack about Science.
I don’t say he is a fraud because he has not done any (monetary) fraud as yet. He is a cheat for sure. If he is using carbide then it is not a water fueled car. It is a carbide fueled car.
I cannot completely dismiss his claims because I am a Software Engineer, not a Physicist. But know this from basic science that his invention is too good to be true.
I have one question to everyone, WHAT IF, the water kit is not a hoax? WHAT IF it actually works? Can you comprehend the magnitude of this (supposed) invention?
how cheap you punjabi people are…. have not u thought for few moments for the sake of solution of the energy crisis in pakistan, instead only blaming Agha Waqar for his incredible invention.
First go and study how to research and how to be a Man then come forward and make some thing that prove u bloody punjabi…
Lolz @Waseem
Iam not Punjabi and by the way where is your super hero gone with his water kit?
Dear,hasty-wastey little try-to-be-scientists. Don’t narrate the theories of energy. You all yourself are the crammer of the theories not the inventor. even if you one day become inventor, do remember, their is no fullstop to scientific discoveries and inventions. your former law can be challenged; stable theory be unstable. there are no doubt rules, but exception also. dog-fight won’t solve the issue. just do the tests of the Agha Waqar’s kit. for how to test, an uneducated motor mechanic would advise you the best than quoting theories and negating the kit on the base of theories. Get a car of your own, get fitted with the kit in front of team of qualified and experienced engineers, some motor mechanics also. then give the car to them for a day or two to see whether there is any fraud. Then run the car for the longest possible travel. after each 500 km or 1000 km, do check the battery position and other related device to see if all is well or not, or how far practical it is.
plz note, people need a car which fuel should cast minimum; environmentalist want environmental friendly car; pak economist want to get rid of huge import bill, scientist want that the invention should be practicable and harmless; that is all our concern, scientific rules are bullshit to people.
We living in Punjab are with Agha Waqar and feel proud that he is a Muslim and Pakistani. Please leave these prejudices aside and learn to live like one Nation. Do not do what our enemies want us to do……Just wish that what all he claims is ture……and I am sure it is possible……because I did some little work on it too……
Aap log Google par sirf yeh type kariye….
HONDA FUEL WATER CAR…
aapke saamne sab kuch aa jaega…
jo chiz pehle invent ho chuki hai…
kya ue har country me alag alag invent kara jaega..
do chaar saal baad koi bangladesh me bhi khada hoke bolega…
Mene pani wala scooter bnaya………..
Pakistanis are idiots, they just beleive in miracles, Looser nation
People if water kit is true, he must have noble prize by now. Khairpur technical college and agha wakar but be known to the world like Eth Zurich and Einstein. This man is a fraud, he just did it for fame. I think he should be punished for it. I have been in Physics in Sweden for years and I know this is fraud. Those who beleive in him are living life of delusion and they are still same people who prostate to graves for a miracle. World is already saying that Pakistanis are idiots. Pakistanis should pray to Allah to give them common sense.
Mr. Faraz Ahmed, i agree with you up to some extent, but please explain me some thing, if law of thermodynamics say energy cannot be created rather only be converted, then how could an Atom Bomb produces massive engergy by only giving a very short energy to the process of Atom Blasting ?
Law of Energy Conversion is not as good and complete as we usually consider, this is nature, there are several examples where rules has been changed.
We must have honor on the claims of Agha Waqar, we must positively examine whatever he says. Look, someone on media is asking him what have he done so that his device is producing enough HHO to run a car, he is neither mad nor a child who should tell his secret in a live program of any media link.
If our media is at fault so we are.
Fraz you have a good knowledge on this topic, you should have a meeting with Mr. Agha Waqar, and try to learn some thing which he knows and should guide him if you can…
Try to get something rather to defeat each other in talks…
Good try in establishing Agha Waqar fraud but my friend you are fighting a loosing battle to convince people of Pakistan of whom half are already illiterate and the rest are only fractionally literate. One gentleman is questioning how energy is created during nuclear fission if law of thermodynamics is right. Dude it isn’t created just released for God sake pick some books and literature and read it before asking such idiotic questions.
Even the PCSIR chairman and the big hero Dr. Qadir adds their voice before reading what is on offer.
But I give you one advice to send this link to Geo and ask them have tried this hard to establish the truth before giving Agha Waqar as hero honour? or if they refuse go to their rivals and establish the truth…. lol……. keep trying banging your head with the wall of ignorance.
For people who say inventions are only done abroad.. and our scientists (the true dedicated ones not the PCSIR chairman) are useless… let me tell you that it costs billions of dollars to invent something in research and development. Which agency either govt. or private is spending anything meaningful on research in Pak.? Keep living in dreams and expect mujaze.
Hats off for your reply.
Thanks and best regards
Faraz Ahmed.
Agreed with you faraz, he said that he is using electrolysis process on distilled water but as per elementary laws of preparation of hydrogen that hydrogen can only be generated from water that contains electrolytes (salt, acid etc.) because in H2O, there is oxygen and hydrogen and both are non metals then i wonder how he conduct electricity from distilled water (Clean).
Thanks,
Student from inner sindh.
i am one of those five hundred students of Sir Agha Waqar. The betrý is used on startup only. Ofter starting kit is working with Generator of car. And do u know also student of sindh,s same cty. ? U Jelse faraz go in hale. I know very wel about u. You ar working for an agency of india and Taliban panjab. It is true. If ths z not true then prove me.
Reading comments sections, I ve no doubt that the country has gone Paagal with few exceptions, hysterical, I tell ya… http://t.co/ipFN7fzv
Summary of Criticism
1. Why Agha uses distilled water? Is he adding some hidden substance? How
electrolysis is possible without a catalyst?
2. Since Agha Waqar is using car battery for decomposing of water; what is the
battery usage during electrolysis? First Law of Thermodynamics is not addressed
by Agha Waqar. Battery Usage will be more than energy obtained at engine.If
only milliamps of battery are used; How milliamps of current are able to break
water molecule?
3. Is it possible from electrolysis to produce a large quantity of hydrogen that it can
run an engine without storage or can work without mixing other fuels?
4. 15000 liters of hydrogen are required for running an engine. Is Agha producing
that volume of gas from little amount of water?
5. 150 PSI is needed to run a car. Agha’s kit does not seem to produce such a
pressure.
6. Has Agha Sahib escaped from NUST people? Where is kit now? Why kit is not
there in Market since so long?
Agha Waqar’s Answers to Criticism
Agha Waqar has Published information about his water kit online. The Summary of the
responses of Agha Waqar to the questions to all above critics is below.
1. Agha Waqar is using a resonant circuit and water as dielectric in a specially
created capacitor. Since it is the requirement of a capacitor for dielectric to be
non conductor; water must be distilled to be non conductor.
2. Thermodynamics is nothing to do with Agha Waqar’s Kit because he is using
resonant circuit. There is a free resonant energy in molecules that could be
excited by resonance. Due to this energy voltage go very high and water
molecule is decomposed into HHO. Max Planck also had predicted such energy in
Planck’s Resonance Hypothesis. Planck’s Resonance Hypothesis Article present
on Harvard website The SAO/NASA Astrophysics Data System . Actually
electricity is not passing through circuit by just exciting resonance energy as
predicted by Planck in resonance Hypothesis and further by Einstein in Hidden
Variable.
3. Hydrogen is highly combustible fuel Octane is just 37% efficient in high energy
combustion to hydrogen and 20% efficient in low energy combustion. So 1000cc
engine will consume 32.35 liter hydrogen at STP. And Agha’s kit is able to
produce more gas in less time.
4. BMW had produced a car name Hydrogen 7. BMW Official site about Hydrogen 7
This Car’s ratings summary is available at Wikipedia. Full ratings and information
can be downloaded at the link BMW Hydrogen 7 information in PDF. It is 6L
(6000cc) Vehicle. It uses 50 litre of compressed hydrogen to travel 100 kms.
Using calculations from it Agha told his car will use only 3235.33 Liter Hydrogen
for 100 kms and 32.35 Liter of Hydrogen for 1 KM at STP.
5. University of Michigan has conducted a research under Deep Blue Project Deep
Blue Project of University of Michigan to discover specifications of ELECTRONIC
HYDROGEN FUEL INJECTION. They had published results at ELECTRONIC
HYDROGEN FUEL INJECTION PDF FILE . California Polytechnic State University has
conducted the similar research and published the results of at HYDROGEN FUEL
INJECTION compiling these results 30 PSI hydrogen pressure is enough to run 1L
(1000cc) car.
6. Agha Waqar has also discussed current project status in this document. It is a
long answer could be downloaded. Agha Waqar’s Answers to Criticism Summary
of related update of project is Agha told he had met NUST people at Presidency.
They had asked him to strengthen kit that it could run the car for 20000 kms test.
Now experimental kit is in hands of Fabricator, PCB designers, die casters and
molders for three months. Dr. AQ Khan has met Agha Waqar and is fully satisfied
and arranging some presentation for Agha that will be answer to all critics.
Pleae Fraz pulish it with link you are an honest intelectual.
I haven’t modified anything all links / stuff is available as it is.
Mr Faraz, please ask Agha Waqar to use his kit on any car with EFI system. I swear he will be in great trouble…!
@Fraz Ahmed I really Appriciate you. You have a big heart to listen criticism. I like it.
@Faraz Ahmed
Bhai chhap day na links walay. Ya bataday hum teray koochay say chalay jain Bay Shak email par bataday tujhay phir tang nahin krain gay.
my dear brothers, i liked urs creticisim, but the 12 volts crunt is also not a cheaf sourse, it is produced by the engine, under consumption of high energy itself,and basicaly this kit runs by that electric crunt,which is almost enough for both recharging the battery as wll as runing the kit,
i m also working on this kit and nearly wll introduce mine, till i make it and see the work of this kit on my own syes, i can not say any thing about,
let agha waqar ahmad sahb to do his job , and plz if u cant help him by any means, than plz plz plz dont disheart him, he is working for u people,not only himself,u know he rejected all the offres of rich counteries, think about, tnx all
i am happy with you bcz u 1st one waqar great work
and i want to by this kit for my car plz you send your contect no
ahhh, I was just browsing this news on internet and found junk of articles about fraud and all that nonsense “According to the law of conservation of energy, this cannot be possible….”. Man give me a break, he didn’t kill anybody nor he harmed anyone. The people were saying bad words on his face without listening him specially with due respect some science teacher ass, he is fraud, he hided a gas cyclender in his car’s ass, I saw him, I will prove him wrong.mummmmmmmmmmmmy…he is lair, he snatch my candy…I just read Agha’s answers he said he has nothing to do with Law of Conservation of energy…there should be law of dumb asses…I think all the people who abused him should fit in that criteria…and thanks God I am not the student of science, I am dumb ass IT guy, programming and making money thanks to God. So sorry science student if U hurt your feelings…and I even don’t care if he made water running car or plane, I just feel mad about the way we treat and talk to people…Everyone is genious in itself…that’s my big problem.
To the author:
Can’t believe you’re getting stick for this article.. I appreciate everything you’ve written here and agree with it. Pakistan needs more people like you! However, we differ at one point. I have absolutely no respect for agha waqar, hes trying to deceive people on national tv. I heard him for a few minutes today on geo and knew right away what a jahil he is!
To the haters:
If you had basic understanding of physics, you’d know what agha is claiming is impossible. I’m not saying its hard or improbable, im using the word ‘IMPOSSIBLE’. Yes, thats what it is.
I’d more than willingly explain it but those who haven’t already understood it probably never will. Unless ofcourse, they do a crash course in physics101 !
Mr. 2nd Faraz, go to Agha Waqr, Sit with him, open his waterkit, prove him wrong and make the video of this operation, upload it on youtube, paste the link here.
Do not give chaawaal and Jahil statement on just a web page. We have billion of cheetay like you, having Masters in Physics, Chemistry degrees, crammed theories and 0 knowledge of practical, seraching for jobs, I am not saying 0, I am saying ZEROOOOO knowledge.
No matter what the Chawal thing Agha Waqar made, I don’t care but let me tell you with a clear mile, you guys are absolutly not intellegent enough to prove it wrong just watching Geo etc.
I don’t need to sit with him and see his so-called ‘waterkit’ to know its a hoax.
2ndly, I’m not a cheetah, our population is only a fraction of a billion, and the only time i studied Physics and Chemistry was in 9th and 10th grade. And trust me, that alone is enough to see right through Mr Agha. Also, I’m not ‘seraching for jobs’, I’m studying finance. And since finance is a numbers’ game, let me tell you, 0 = “ZEROOOO”. So why would you say the same thing twice?
Moving on..
I have absolutely no need to prove him wrong. His kit (Note : I didn’t call it his invention, it isn’t.) is going to bear no fruit. Its useless.
The agha guy just wants to be lent some money. Hes either going to run away with it (deja vu anyone?) or spend it all on ‘waterkits’ which will dry your batteries before you know.
0 = Zero not ZEROOOO, its a spelling mistake :p. Bro, I am not challenging your science knowledge even though you are finance guy. I am not even saying that you are seraching for job, I said this in general aspect. Even you are 100% right still I will say this that, this is the lack professional spirt to prove him wrong just by describing few science laws. You might said that thay may wrong because physics say this n this….I am an IT Guy and even not in Pakistan right now, left Pak 2.5 years back and working in NY, US. What I observe here if any one blow a BIG BIG chawal here, No one blindly make fun of him, instant expolore and investigate and comes with result that we lack here in Pakistan. This doesn’t matter from where you learn a goof thing, we should follow it. I am saying this to myself before saying to anyone else. Hope you got my point.
mr HMM you are stupid most and [Edited]person ever i seen you even have no sense how to talk with peoples its a social media network and you have no right to to post your personal and home problems anger here in normal peoples you are actually psych patient …..dammnn person the things you are using TV INTERNET MACHINES CARS BIKES PLANES all are invented by the laws of physics if you want to refuse these laws then first remove the car seat from your stupid [Edited]and also remove your bloody [Edited] from your washing machine because its also the invention of physics….you are more blind more bigger [Edited] as compared to AGHA WAQAR [Edited]of both of you………
Mr Waqar reappeared on Capital Talk on 29th August and reaffirmed his claim. Actually people like Dr Samar Mubarik Mand, Dr Atta ul Haq, and that jocker Hood Bhai who had been all their lives been cheating the nation and taking billion of ruppees without making any worthwhile invention for Pakistan. The claim of Mr Waqar by no means violates principles of science because it is energy not transformed into another form of energy but energy used to initiate a process of electrolysis. The wise thing he has done is how he accelerated the process, is it a catalyst or some other principle. We must remember the world of discoveries is not over, we are just on the tip of it and there is much more to be discovered. May be we have not studied the properties of water in so much depth. We know ther is so much anomalous about water. I do not give any ratting to these above mentioned jockers because they have not taken Pakistan out of Energy Crisis. If they had known something better they would have devised something. there is plenty of Uranium in Pakistan. Let see Mr Waqar is going Commercial in three months. Best of Luck. Insha Allah with blessing of Almighty you are going to be successful. If Mr Waqar turn out to be successful will Mr Samar, Attaul Haq and Hood Bhai would deposit all their Pays and benefits back to the national treasury………..
Its hard to believe, the number of ignorants in our society. However, I dare to post an explanation of why the kit will fail.
On his latest show ( and the only one I’ve watched in entirety), Mr Agha explained that in his kit, water breaks down to produce hydrogen (which is a form of energy, water itself isn’t) through a process called electrolysis. Now, electrolysis doesn’t happen on its own, you need to provide a source of energy for that to happen. Agha said that energy will come from the battery. And the resulting energy produced will power the car while, at the same time, recharging the battery too. That, my beloved Pakistani people, is impossible. Things don’t work that way.
Energy can not be created. FACT.
What happens is, the hydrogen atoms of water are separated from the oxygen atoms of water, using the battery, and then those hydrogen atoms provide energy to the car. According to laws of physics, enough energy can not be produced to run the car and recharge the battery too. The car may run for a while (look, a miracle!) but eventually, the battery will dry out and the car will stop. You can not argue or deny this, its facts that I’m talking and there is no way around it.
I heard someone say “agha said it has nothing to do with this law of conservation of energy”, and I held my head in my hands.
Laws are not optional (we pakistanis seem to have a different definition of laws though, and I’m not talking about physics).
Laws are there, definitely, and there is no way around them. When you invent something, you make sure its not contradicting with any of the law of science. Its Agha’s responsibility to show how his kit is in line with the laws, not other science guys’ responsibilty to prove how they go against it.
So please people, we are all desperate for cheap fuel, but this Agha guy is not our answer.
@faraz Alway energy is not only the enrgy you supply there are many other energies present all around us. Let me explain to you from where energy come.There are two kinds of energies in particles. One is thermal energy that could be dealt with thermodynamics laws. Other is vibration energies. I think there is no dispute in this universal truth that molecules do vibrate. These vibration energies are not in some order and harmony. These vibrations cancel others’ effect. So the net effect of these energies results zero and just thermal effects holds. If we can arrange some method for molecules to vibrate in some rhythm; we could be able to use this irrational energy.
Even generally molecule as a whole is neutral Atoms inside molecules do not remain neutral.
If a molecule is formed with ionic bonds (total transfer of electrons). The atoms from which electrons are transferred are positively charged and atoms to which electrons are transferred are negatively charged and both called ions.
If molecule is formed with sharing of electrons the relation between atoms is called covalent bond. As sharing electrons move to the center point between molecule imbalance in +ve and –ve charge is created.
Water molecule is formed due to Polar covalent bonds. Two Hydrogen Atoms are at one pole and oxygen atom is on other pole.
If we apply some electromagnetic effect from outside; It allows water molecule’s tendency that hydrogen pole to –ve side of the external charge and oxygen pole to +ve side of the external charge. As every vibrating thing has resonant frequency. If we apply energy to the system with its resonant frequency vibrations (waves) inside the system will go to the peak level. This creates the possibility of using molecular vibration energies.
Maxx Planks has discussed similar thing in his article http://archive.org/download/uberdietheoewarm00planrich/uberdietheoewarm00planrich_bw.pdf . Now the problem is this article is very long and in German language.
So, we had mentioned the other resource which is present The SAO/NASA Astrophysics Data System at Harvard website under http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2009SPIE.7421E…9B . Detailed version of this book is present at http://144.206.159.178/ft/CONF/16435650/16435660.pdf .
Now in Agha Sahib’s Kit, a capacitor is created with dipping some metal plates in distilled water. This capacitor is attached with a coil to form an LC resonant circuit. This resonant circuit is applied with the Pulses of low electric current. It is made sure with circuit that the frequency of the applied pulse remain same as the frequency of resonance of the system (water based Capacitor etc.). As polar molecule of water vibrates with the resonant frequency of the system; there comes a point its bond could not be able to retain the molecule. So this kit uses molecular vibration energy already present in molecules by ordering this energy by applying electric filed by creating a resonance inside the system with very low electric current. (The voltage at system goes very high)
Dear I am not a science student but still I think that energy never kill it self, it changes its shape or in other words transform in other things, and If you discover to keep the energy in that specific state you need that energy you will win the world.
However If any body know the number or address of Mr.Qamar Khan Sb please provide me as I want to install the Kit of Mr.Qamar khan sb, running on petrol + water.
You should not discredit poor Agha Waqar at this early stage. Give him some time and let him prove himself. After all he is not quack or sinyasi. He demonstrated his car to the media. He may not be 100% successful with his idea but at least he has stirred the so called scientific community of Pakistan. I don’t agree with Hoodbye and Dr. Atta-ur-Reham treatment of this gentleman. There argument is not entirety technical but reflects element of the professional jealousy.
Read this and let me know still did u think we should’nt disrespect him?
http://e.jang.com.pk/09-04-2012/karachi/pic.asp?picname=1056.gif
@Faraz, there is no science law that if person remained in prison he cannot make a water kit…there is one asshole who spent his most age in prison and now he is the president of your or my country, did you write any post about him.
I was just reading news on bbc.co.uk/urdu and there was new about the women’s sexual harrasment in Eygpt and some days ago the news of Egyption olymipians 2012 who smoked shesha and remained off during match cause they didn’t care abour the timings. So there is only one country in world that has sexual harrasment and shesha smoking alegations and Why???? because Gov has changed and trying to implement some islamic rules, please don’t give me news about Egyption president asking for loan from IMF, I already know that.
Why I am relating this new to Agha Waqar cause the type of dirty politics is same. What if he went to prison due to work leave. Tell me any Gov employee who worked 8 hours a day and leave on time in Pak??? Similarly what bbc think about sexual harrasment in UK, US and Pak?? I know what the hell is going on in US cause I am living here and I lived in Pak as well. Please stop doing this nonsense, open your hearts and try to improve morally and ethically.
So again the matters of behaviours, do we all think that we are perfect and rest of world has just assholes. We are really in terrible situation as Pakistani nation.
I am saying this to myself before saying to anyone else.
Stupid people, they are still waiting for the comercialization of water kit
I couldn’t understand a bit of this paper but tell me if any one can explain the science of water kit:
http://cosmoscientists.com/Agha%20Waqar's%20Water%20Kit.pdf
now it dosnt feel bad to me to see these fools believe such a pathetic & illogical theory. faraz ahmed ,if you cant convince them make them fool. i guess more than 80% of pakistanis are educated laymen, what i call them & their thoughts cant be rectified. this has done one good , it has shown the real face of education in pakistan. no offence ,but when i see pakistan from here (at germany) , i am so worried about its fate. narrow minded people & believers of false conspiracy theories would just take pakistan towards a point of sheer darkness, i fear.
Great, you reached Germany bro and you found that you were living among the idiots, the junk of nonsense and poorly educated rotten community. Man, when you leave your country or born in other country, you are the ambassador of your nation, be positive and don’t point out bad things or yell on your country’s ppl. If others are wrong, be polite and try to guide them to better way as much you can. PS. I also live in USA and love my nation and country, its education, though I know its not perfect. But this country gave me alot that I even don’t deserve. I dam care they make water kit or water bridge.
The actuall problem with us is that we do not get in to details, we know nothing still we will comment like pro`s. I bet not more that 10% commenting people would know hardly anything about alternating energy source. Still they will comment.
Hybrid cars are the next solutions for many more years to come, untill the Hydrogen cell cars get stable so enjoy the Hybrid and leave the water to drink otherwise pakistan mein pani ki mazeed kilat ho jaye gi
FARAZ currently i am in London before that i was in Dubai….. believe me peoples having a fun of Pakistan after these kinds of frauds highlighted in media .they think we are the stupid most nation of the world who didn’t know the basics of science and they are right……….
I try to convince my 2 3 friends on social media like Facebook who believe that he is our HERO.but the response i received is i am stupid and jealous that why having a comments like that.the point is all of them are well educated,
enough is enough please wake up try to raise your standards at least for the dignity of the country .
GOD BLESS PAKISTAN AND ITS POOR PEOPLE
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
Salaam to all.. Dr. samar mubarikmand sahib ny jab koyly sy bijli banai to us ka kya reaction aya.. shaid sab ny daikha ho ga,,! ab itni bari bari companies jin k kharboon dollers oil business main lagy huay hain , agr ye sab kah dain k pani sy gari chal sakti hai to un companies k share ka rate aik rupee b nai rahta.. pakistani bureaucracy aur politicians to waisy hi munh khol kar agyar k tukroon k muntazir hain.. ye ko kal Dr. Waqar ko poison daikar hi na mar dalain.. waqar sahib ko chahiay k jo saman is kit main istemal hota hy us ki list in gardar scientists ko dain, aur un k lye huay saman sy koi genrator chala k dikhain.. main khud aisi hi kit daikh chka hoon is liay waqar sahib per koi shak nhi.. wasalaam..
We can see many many Hoodboys and Ata Rehmans in past history too, who ridiculed great Inventors. Read Proof below: A MUST READING FOR ALL PEOPLE:
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Suppression of new ideas & innovation:
It is not happening just with Agha, but in past also were many Hoodbhoys and Ata-Rehmans who opposed great inventions with full force. Please forward this message to ur colleagues if u liked it. Spread this massage throughout Pakistan in order to expose Hoodbhoys, Ata Rehmans and their pets. Thanks.
Human history is riddled with examples of innovations and research that had been suppressed and derogated by the leading science community and the accepted scientific conventions of the time. Throughout human history, many innovators became the victims of the insults of the skeptical scientific, governmental and corporate power elites.
German Professor George Ohm’s famous Ohm’s Law in initial publication was met with ridicule and dismissal and it was called “a tissue of naked fantasy.” In fact he was so much teased by Hoodbhoys and Ata-Rehmans of those days, that he resigned from professorship. Ten years later, scientists recognized its great importance. [Note: It is taught in Universities & is base of Electricity]
NOW LISTEN ABOUT INVENTION OF AIRPLANE: During 1903 to 1908, Wrights Brother’s claims about their airplane invention were not believed. Most American scientists discredited the Wrights and proclaimed that their mechanism was a hoax. [Note: As is being said now by many Hoodbhoys & many Ata Rehmans about Agha Waqar].
Another idiot Jahil Professor said “Airplanes are interesting toys, but of no military value.” – Said by Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre. [Note: All military powers has War planes i.e our Thunder].
When Thomas Edison became successful with a light bulb filament he invited members of the scientific community to observe his demonstration. Although many from the general public went to witness the lamp, the noted scientists refused to attend. Sir William Siemens, England’s most distinguished engineer said “Such startling announcements as these should be deprecated as being unworthy of science and mischievous to its true progress.” Professor Du Moncel said “The Sorcerer of Menlo Park appears not to be acquainted with the subtleties of the electrical sciences. Mr. Edison takes us backwards.”
“Mr. Bell, after careful consideration of your invention, while it is a very interesting novelty, we have come to the conclusion that it has no commercial possibilities.” — J. P. Morgan’s comments on behalf of the officials and engineers of Western Union after a demonstration of the newly invented telephone.
“This ‘telephone’ has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us.” –Western Union internal memo, 1876. [Note: Now every house/person has telephone]
When Nobel Laureate Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar presented his ideas at the Royal Astronomical Society in January 1935, most famous astronomer at that time, Arthur Eddington, ridiculed his ideas. It took decades before the Chandrasekhar Limit was accepted by all astrophysicists and eventually his idea became the foundation for the theory of black holes. Forty years later, Chandrasekhar was awarded the 1983 Nobel Prize in physics.
Galileo’s ideas about the universe were first dismissed as being impossible. The priests and aristocrats feared the worldview that his ideas were beginning to force upon people. Galileo was placed under house arrest.
The inventors of the turbine ship engine, the electric ships telegraph, and the steel ship hull were initially met with disbelief and derision for their work.
“Louis Pasteur’s theory of germs is ridiculous fiction.” – Said by Pierre Pachet, Professor of Physiology, 1872..
Nobel Laureate Hans Krebs’ discovery of the metabolic cycle that would eventually bear his name was rejected from the journal Nature.
Nobel prize-winning biochemist Albert Szent-Gyorgyi never got funded for his work on the relevance of quantum physics to living organisms.
When Nobel laureate Hans Alfven came up with the idea of parallel electric fields he was ridiculed for his work. [Note: It is taught in Universities]
When Nobel laureate Svante Arrhenius proposed his idea that electrolytes are full of charged atoms, it was considered a crazy notion. [Note: It is taught in Universities]
Luigi Galvani’s experiments were ridiculed because they countered established views. He was called the “frogs’ dance instructor.” His innovative experiments eventually became the basis for the biological study of neurophysiology. [Note: It is taught in Universities]
When Scanning-tunneling microscope was invented in 1982, it was met by hostility and ridicule from the specialists in the microscopy field. In 1986, the inventors won the Nobel Prize.
Stanford Ovshinsky’s invention of glasslike semiconductors was attacked by physicists and ignored for more than a decade [10 years]. Finally he got funding from the Japanese for his work. Consequently, the new science of amorphous semiconductor physics was born. [Note: It is taught in Universities]
When Sherwood Rowland, Mario Molina and Paul Crutzen first warned that chemicals called cholorofluorocarbons or CFCs, were destroying the ozone layer they were ridiculed for their work. In 1995, Rowland, Molina and Crutzen, won a Nobel Prize for this discovery.
When Warren and his team introduced a new facet to MRI theory, his colleagues at Princeton University told him that his insane ideas were endangering his career. They held a mean-spirited bogus presentation mocking his work. After seven years, Warren was vindicated. His discoveries are leading to the development of new MRI techniques. [Note: Now many benefit from this great invention]
Appeal to all members of Pakistani Parliament and Ministers:
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Dear Sir,
World’s scientists has been trying to replace fuel by Water-hydrogen from 100 yrs but are failed.
But Agha waqar has invented this the greatest invention of history but he is being discouraged by Jahil Ph.D’s . Now fuel-mafia is using Sindh police to harass this big hero of nation. Please provide him full secure accommodation with security personals before he is murdered by Fuel-mafia.
Thanks
Abdul Hamid
TRUTH IS THIS:
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The crux of matter is that idiotic jealous brains of Hoodbhoy and Ata Rehman and many other Jahil Ph.D’s and fools are stuck on conventional electrolysis; which of course cannot run a car on 100% Water. So these fools are always showing u their calculations of Electrolysis in their comments and articles, which are totally irrelevant to this new invention. As a result, these bloody fools are shouting like mads and declaring Agha a fraud w/o any physical proof of fraud.
True story is, that Agha is not using conventional electrolysis [that takes too much current] in this new invention. Agha is using a new technique that uses very very little current like car radio but produces hydrogen many many time more than electrolysis. Technique works in 2 steps. To give shock that strongly weakens H2O bonds. Then a tiny current is needed [like Car Radio] that continues to separate H from water EASILY. Practical demonstration has already been done in front of many many Ph.D scientist, journalists, ministers and Parliamentarians. Full mechanics of new technique will be revealed only after commercialization of New Method, Then whole world will add this new invention in their existing books of science and Technology.
Bcsz this new technique does not exist in existing Books that are read in Engineering universities and in Ph.D classes; this is why Jealous-Jahils Hoodbhoy, Ata Rehman and their brainless barking pets have no ability to understand the mechanics of this invention. With in 3 months when this KIT will be commercialized and many cars will start to run on roads, this new technique will be fully disclosed.
No doubt Agha is not well versed in Theory and he has invented this GREATEST INVENTION OF MANKIND HISTORY by hit-and-trial method; u can say it accidentally. But Many inventions in past were also invented not by Ph.D’s or Engineers but by simple technicians like Thomas Edison who is so far the biggest inventor with 119 inventions.
We assure u Agha’s invention is 1000% truth, as we know exactly what his invention is.
Note that Hoodbohy Ata-Rehman and their pets are brainless Jealous foooools.
This invention in fact can replace trillions of tons world’s fuel by water – A big threat to fuel-mafia. This Kit can run automobiles generators powerhouses factories missiles ships submarines Army tanks and all what is being run by fuel now.
Fuel-Mafia is now using police to harass Agha to stop his invention. Case made against him totally fake and manufactured. For the sake of Argument, even if we assume, he did robbery, how can u relate it with his GREATEST invention?
If a notorious Dakoo can be a President of a Country then what is wrong with Agha?
i like u fraz and ilike reserch
mainy water kit ky dry cell banaey hain aur wo tqreeban 600 watt per 2.5 litter gas/ min bana rahy hain aik 1000cc gari ko tqreeban 35 liter/min hydrogen gas chahey aur us ky liey taqreeban 8500 watt bijli chahey jo ky kisi aik batrey sy nahi di jasakti agha waqar faraud hi ker raha hy.
well i m agree with faraz Mr.Agha is also belong to PPPP…and this govnment posses him as a hero such this is all about planed to make fool the people and nothing else…how easily this person approch to the minister and about his discovery i m very sorry to say he is bullshit and nothing else
puri duniya ne deekha k ek fedral minister aur ek well known TV anchor laws of physics ka mazaq ura rahe hain aur sab khamoosh hain.